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Detroit's first round pick, at #30, is Sanborn, NY native and Guelph Storm goaltender Thomas McCollum
He's already played two seasons of 45+ games in the OHL, which is a pretty good amount for a tender.
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I kind of expected Detroit to trade their first rounder for a couple of later picks because they wouldn't have another pick at #91, or take a D like they always do. But as the first round wore on, D were going and they weren't trading their pick, I had a feeling that they might go after one of the goalies still available. I really like this pick.
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So... is Gustav Nyquist (121st overall) the next super amazing Detroit player?
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| So... is Gustav Nyquist (121st overall) the next super amazing Detroit player? |
Hopefully! Sweet name on the guy
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Or is it Jepser Samuelsson, picked with the last pick (211th overall)?
Zetterberg went 210th overall. Samuelsson is a high scoring forward with good hockey sense... he's already 20, but will be moving up to Timra, the same club that Zetterberg developed with.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080621.WBhockeyblog20080621143749/WBStory/WBhockeyblog/
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We can only hope...
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| Timmy: on Jesper Samuelsson, the 20-year-old Swede that the Detroit Red Wings took with the 211th and final pick of the 2008 entry draft: A total of eight players chosen with the last pick in the draft have played at least one NHL game, including the Red Wings' prospect Jonathan Ericsson, who played eight games last year and figures to be a regular next year. That pick came in 2002. Others include Andy Brickley, Hans Jonsson and one current NHLer, Minnesota Wild defenceman Kim Johnsson. But assistant GM Jim Nill said not to read too much into the pick; that Samuelsson was a flyer, recommended by their chief European scout, Hakan Andersson, and they would cross their fingers and hope that the pick pans out. “We've had other last-round picks that are out of hockey,” said Nill. “We've got to keep it in perspective.” |
Every single last-round pick since 1990 except for Ericsson and some guy named Ryan Bach who played 3 games for LA, to be exact, have not made it to the NHL. Pyett will look to be the third in the next couple of seasons.
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7th round has only been the last round for a couple of years. You can't really compare it to the 9th round picks that don't pan out...
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| 7th round has only been the last round for a couple of years. You can't really compare it to the 9th round picks that don't pan out... |
True, but all I'm saying is that it shouldn't be expected for the Wings to pull out a really late one every year 
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| Nill said not to read too much into the pick; that Samuelsson was a flyer, recommended by their chief European scout, Hakan Andersson, and they would cross their fingers and hope that the pick pans out. |
If Hakan Andersson says the kid is worth a flyer I'm going to listen. Looks like the Red Wings are too. The way Andersson's picks have turned out so far this guy will probably be a Hart candidate in five years.
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The draft:
#30: G Tomas McCallum. Starting goalie for the Guelph Storm of the OHL of the past 2 years. Can play minimum one more season and then turn pro.
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SCOUT COMMENTS
"No. 1 attribute is his net position — it's second to none, there are rarely any holes and he has a great butterfly. When he is challenging and at the top of his game he is very tough to beat. He has good net coverage and he is very competitive; capable of making the big saves for his team. He handles the puck well and his play has gotten better over the course of the year by leaps and bounds. He is definitely one of those franchise type of goalies in the future. You can see that his team is very confident in front of him and he can see through screens very well. In saying all of this, I rarely see him out of position." — Central Scouting goaltender scout Al Jensen (June 2008).
STRENGTHS
Known for his outstanding glove and sharp reflexes ... Positionally-sound ... Above-average size ... Leaves little to shoot at ... Butterfly style ... Competitive ... Tracks pucks well through traffic.
WEAKNESSES
Inconsistent ... Struggles when forced to make athletic, acrobatic stops ... Puck-handling needs work.
PROJECTION
McCollum is a Jimmy Howard-calibre prospect who, along with Daniel Larsson, gives the Red Wings a three-horse race for their goalie of the future. Because of his late birthdate, the Red Wings have the option of pulling him out of junior in 2009-10 to put him in the AHL. In the meantime, he'll spend 2008-09 in Guelph, and has a chance to assert himself as a blue-chipper. |
#91: D Max Nicastro. Drafted out of the USHL, he's committed to Boston University for 09-10. Long development curve expected.
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STRENGTHS
Mobile ... Smooth finesse player with good all-around smarts ... Poised first passer who can lead the breakout ... Defends with his stick more than his size and physical play ... Heavy shot ... Good leadership qualities ... Potentially a good-sized defenseman as he becomes more physically mature.
WEAKNESSES
Extremely lean and needs to add strength ... Not a bruiser ... Still a bit raw carrying the puck ... Doesn't really wow you on a given night, but neither does Nicklas Lidstrom.
PROJECTION
Don't expect to see Nicastro in Detroit overnight — it's going to be a long wait. The Red Wings hope he'll be a top-four NHL defenseman in about seven years, so they'll let him develop at his own pace at Boston University. Nicastro has good upside if he can put it all together. |
#121: LW Gustav Nyqvist. Swedish prospect passed over last year, he grew a bunch this season and is rare in that he's committed to play for Maine in the NCAA, which not many Swedes do.
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SCOUT COMMENTS
"There are other skilled 5-11 guys, but he’s more intense. Works harder, chases the puck, backchecks very good. Not very physical, but skates and works and wants the puck back all the time." — Red Wings director of European scouting Hakan Andersson (June 2008, Freep.com).
STRENGTHS
Great skater with an excellent top gear ... Energetic ... A takeaway ace with a quick stick ... Pushes the pace offensively with his speed ... Doesn't give up on plays ... Smart player at both ends of the rink ... Good finisher and playmaker with upside to be an offensive contributor.
WEAKNESSES
Doesn't make a physical impact ... Small and slight ... Needs to prove his scoring prowess beyond the Swedish junior ranks, and will face a difficult challenge against older, stronger college players.
PROJECTION
It's rare for a Swede to leave home to play NCAA hockey, but that's exactly what Nyquist is doing as he heads to the University of Maine for the 2008-09 season. He put up big numbers at the junior level in Sweden, and Black Bears head coach Tim Whitehead has high hopes for him as a freshman. The Red Wings hope they've found another undersized European mid-round gem. |
#151: LW Julien Cayer. Another player passed over in last year's draft, he'll be playing at Clarkson university(NCAA) next season.
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SCOUT COMMENTS
"Once he grows into his body, I think he will be an extremely exciting college player. He has very good hands and shoots the puck like a pro. Julien has very good skills but also competes at a very high level." — Clarkson University head coach George Roll (April 2008).
STRENGTHS
Not a burner, but a good skater, especially for his size ... Great shot ... Long reach and good moves make him dangerous in 1-on-1 situations ... Has the height and frame to be a force, if he bulks up ... Makes an impact when he is playing physical ... Doesn't neglect defensive end.
WEAKNESSES
Has grown a lot in recent years and is still adjusting to his frame ... Raw prospect with good individual tools that need to come together ... Needs to commit to a consistent physical game.
PROJECTION
Cayer is a big-time project, but the raw pieces of a power forward are there to be molded. He has four years of NCAA hockey at Clarkson to show the Red Wings he can put it together. |
#181: C Stephen Johnston. Played for Belleville in the O last season. Two more years there.
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PROJECTION
Two goals and seven assists in 56 games do not exactly scream top prospect, so Johnston has to show what he can do with a bigger role in Belleville in 2008-09. The Red Wings and Bulls both envision Johnston having a Shawn Matthias-type breakthrough, so big numbers could be around the corner. Optimistically, Johnston projects as an energetic third-line forward who can contribute. |
#211: C Jesper Samuelsson. Already 20 years old, and is coming from the same unknown team where Detroit turned up Jonathan Ericsson. Will play with Hank's former team, Timra, in the SEL next season.
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PROJECTION
A player by the name of Fabian Brunnstrom went from an unknown at Sweden's third level to the Swedish Elite League and became one of hockey's most coveted prospects overnight. The Red Wings are hoping for a similar leap from Samuelsson, who the Red Wings uncovered playing for the same rarely-scouted club that produced Jonathan Ericsson. He will try his luck with Timra of the Swedish Elite League in 2008-09 as the Red Wings try to defy the odds with another late-round steal. |
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| So... is Gustav Nyquist (121st overall) the next super amazing Detroit player? |
Here's something from someone on HFBoards, a Swede with the title "Amateur Scout":
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I can assure you guys that this isn´t just a random pick. He could have been a draft pick last season but Håkan didn´t get the chance to see him enough (and the rest of the league though that he was to small and weak). We watched a game togather this season and he was bugged that he didn´t take his time to see him more last year. But thankfully he went undrafted. This season "someone" brought his name up to Håkan and he started following him pretty much from the start of the season and at the end season he was a high candidate for a mid round pick because of his: speed, hockey sense, playmaking ability, and work ethic. He needs to get stronger and the 4 years that he can spend in college will help adress that need. I know that at least one more team from the Western Conferance were interested in him and probably would have taken him in the 5th rd.
He reminds a whole lot of Zetterberg (Note: Not saying that he´s the next Z) with his offensive skill but even more with his great defensive game. He reads plays so well and is very competetive and allways works hard on the backcheck. And he´s doing this as a Jun-a player. With more seasoning he should get even better. His stickwork is very Datsyuk-like in the defensive-mode as he has an uncanny ability to steal pucks from the opposition with ease.
This is the player that excites me the most from the Wings draft and it´ll be interesting to follow him for the next few years. |
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Andersson says that you need a bit of luck
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Hakan Andersson counts himself lucky for making the trip to Norrkoping, Sweden, to watch Jesper Samuelsson play before Christmas. If he had waited until after, Samuelsson might not be a Detroit Red Wings draft pick today.
The Red Wings selected Samuelsson with the last pick in the NHL draft on Saturday at 211th overall. He scored 20 goals and added 42 assists for 62 points in 40 games at Sweden's third level last season with Hasten, the same team in Norrkoping that produced another Mr. Irrelevant, Jonathan Ericsson.
Andersson, the Red Wings' director of European scouting, said Samuelsson collected two-thirds of his points in the first half of the season.
"At Christmas, he got a new coach, who is known to be a bit of an idiot," Andersson said. "At mid-season, Samuelsson, who was by far the leading scorer on the team and league, wouldn't even get on power plays.
"I know two other scouts went to watch him, but they did it late in the year, and so what they saw probably didn't impress them much."
What Andersson saw in Samuelsson against low-level competition was, first and foremost, a terrific playmaker with impressive hockey sense. The 20-year-old, unknown and ignored in the past two NHL drafts, has an uncanny knack for finding the open man, skills that were lost on some of his teammates.
"If he played with a good winger, he could have had another 30 points," Andersson said. "There were times he'd make plays and his winger wasn't even close to being ready for the puck. He'd be looking somewhere else with his stick up in the air and there was the puck, in front of him, and the net was wide open." |
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Mighty Max 'good at everything'
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You won't catch many scouts saying bad things about Max Nicastro. But there's a catch: You won't catch many raving about him, either.
Nicastro is a right-shooting defenseman who can best be described as a jack of all trades, master of none. And that's not such a bad thing — you can carve a seasoned NHL veteran out of a guy like that.
As Detroit Red Wings veteran amateur scout Mark Leach put it, "I don't think he has one unbelievable asset, but he's good at everything."
The Red Wings drafted the 6-foot-2, 189-pounder from Thousand Oaks, Calif., with their second pick, 90th overall, in Saturday's NHL draft.
Nicastro is coming off a solid year with the Chicago Steel of the United States Hockey League. He earned top-pairing minutes under the guidance of former NHL defenceman Steve Poapst, collecting six goals and 14 assists in 58 games.
He is headed to Boston University in 2009 after another season in Chicago, meaning the Red Wings have five full years to sign him.
"He's a No. 4 or 5 type of guy," Red Wings assistant general manager Jim Nill said. "He won't be a big offensive guy, but he moves the puck smart and safe, he can play the power play but he's not a big point producer. He's got good size and he competes hard defensively. He's a well-rounded defenseman."
Nicastro spent his primary development years playing hockey in the Los Angeles area, which is not exactly a hockey hotbed. Understandably, the 18-year-old got off to a tentative start in his USHL rookie campaign.
But as the season progressed, the Red Wings watched him get more and more comfortable, and he finished the year a plus-7.
"He plays a willing physical game and isn't afraid to step up on guys," said Red Wings amateur scout David Kolb, who focuses on the USHL. "His defensive game should only improve as he gains strength and grows into his body. He has a pretty good frame to work with and has room to get bigger."
It's not very often a player from California makes it to the NHL, so the Red Wings are banking on Nicastro to be part of changing that trend. He could take a big leap next season, as he is expected to be the No. 1 blueliner in Chicago and receive heavy power-play minutes. Then, he's off to college.
If Nicastro can develop his game in a single area — by taking charge offensively or developing a nasty streak — he could find a real niche.
"We feel optimistic that he has the tools to become more of a factor with the puck down the road," Kolb said. "If everything falls into place, the hope is that he could some day be a top-four defenceman at the NHL level." |
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The Wings have signed Belarussian defenseman Sergei Kolosov
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The Red Wings signed defenseman Sergei Kolosov to a two-year entry-level contract today. Kolosov (6-4, 187) was the Red Wings' fifth-round pick (151 overall) in 2004. The 22-year-old played in the USHL with Cedar Rapids before returning home to play in Belarus last winter.
Detroit would have lost his rights June 1, but there was no international transfer agreement in place, keeping Kolosov in the Red Wings' fold. The big blue-liner will be working to earn a spot in Grand Rapids this fall. |
#151 Cayer plays with 'chip on his shoulder'
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If there is one thing the Detroit Red Wings have struggled to find through the draft, it’s big, hard-nosed skaters. But every year, they usually take a shot at one rough-and-tumble pick, and this year was no exception.
Meet Julien Cayer, who hails from the Montreal area and spent last season at a Lake Placid, N.Y., prep school named Northwood.
He is listed at 6-foot-4 — although the Red Wings peg him at a shade below 6-foot-3 — and is still filling out, tipping the scales at about 185 pounds.
“His best assets are his size and he plays physical,” Red Wings amateur scout Mark Leach said. “He plays very hard and he’s very aggressive. He plays with a chip on his shoulder and he’s not afraid to mix it up.”
The Red Wings, who drafted Cayer 151st overall, see him filling out to around 6-foot-3 and 210 pounds, and like the fact they don't have to sign him until 2012. He is starting his freshman year at Clarkson University in the fall.
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“He skates well, he can make plays, and he’s pretty solid at both ends of the ice,” Leach said. “I’m not going to say he’s going to be unbelievably offensive right now, but he’s got some skills and a feel for the game.”
Leach said Cayer, who is a natural center but can also play on the wing, projects as a physical third-liner who can contribute offensively.
“He’s a strong power up-and-down player, just a good strong skater,” he said. |
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Detroit hoping for a breakout year from Stephen Johnston
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The Detroit Red Wings will probably regret trading Shawn Matthias for years to come, but Stephen Johnston may help ease some of the pain.
The Red Wings selected Johnston, Matthias's teammate with the Belleville Bulls, in the sixth round, 181st overall, in the NHL draft, with the hope he will experience a Matthias-type breakout over the next couple of seasons.
"I talked to (Belleville head coach) George Burnett after the draft and he was just shocked Johnston was still sitting there," said Red Wings director of scouting Joe McDonnell. "He said, ‘He's so much like Matthias in terms of his development progress,' and we were thinking exactly the same way."
When you look at Johnston's stats — two goals and seven assists in 56 regular-season games — it's not that much of a shock he was still around.
But it's important to take into account that Johnston played on one of the best teams in the Canadian Hockey League, and spent most of the year as a little-used fourth-line center on the road to the Memorial Cup.
In the post-season, however, the 18-year-old from Guelph, Ontario, had a chance to shine when Matthias went down with tonsillitis and mononucleosis. He more than doubled his season goal total in 19 games, finding the net five times, and almost matched his point total, chipping in with two assists.
McDonnell, based in Kitchener, home of the Ontario Hockey League champion and Memorial Cup host Rangers, took in plenty of Johnston's games, as the Rangers and Bulls met seven times in a classic final.
"He didn't get a whole lot of ice time this year and I was just lucky to see him in the games Matthias was out," McDonnell said. "He stepped into that second-line role and played real, real well. He responded really well."
The Red Wings drafted Matthias 47th overall in 2006 and traded him for Todd Bertuzzi a year later. The 6-foot-3, 211-pound center was coming off a 34-point season on draft day, but potted 38 goals among 73 points a season later and is now ranked the world's 12th best prospect by The Hockey News.
Johnston is listed as 6-foot-1 and 175 pounds, but Red Wings assistant GM Jim Nill figures he's already an inch taller and 10 pounds heavier. McDonnell said he's a "tall, lanky kid who just needs to grow into his body."
"His skating ability is probably his No. 1 asset," McDonnell said. "He's got a real good head for the game and he's a very good playmaker."
While Johnston's fourth-line role in Belleville might lead you to believe he's a bruising grinder, the Red Wings don't expect that to be his niche.
"He's not afraid to stick his nose in, but that's not his game, going out and running people," McDonnell said. "He's just a competitive player."
The Bulls will retool this season, with plenty of veterans — including Matthias — graduating to the pro ranks. That means Johnston is in for a major boost in ice time, and the Red Wings hope that means a major boost in production.
"He just showed us little flashes," Red Wings scout Mark Leach said. "At that point in the draft, Joe said, ‘This kid has some upside, something's going to happen to him.' There's just something here that we felt he had. These kids develop at different times ... We think he might be a bit of a late-bloomer." |
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