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Av-merican
Un-Tenured Professor of Hockey
Joined: 17 Oct 2007
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Location: Denver
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| Dead serious. I think Ward is highly overrated. His playoff run got him the rep as a big time goalie but he was average or below average last year and pretty average so far this year. He wins games because the Canes score a ton but his GAA and save % are basically Kolzig/Labarbera territory. Grahame is not good, so if anything happens to Ward this team that right now looks like it has potential to go deep in the playoffs goes downhill fast. Grabbing Bryz gives you a legit backup in case of injury to Ward and can push him. He's cheap and only on contract for a year so there is very little downside to grabbing him and huge potential upside. |
Ask sask about Ward's career (not that it's gospel or anything but hey he's done the research whereas I haven't). His talent is proven at every level he's played. He plays behind a team that employs a run-and-gun style and a defense that's nowhere near Stanley Cup caliber. It was his playoff heroics that won the Canes their Cup, don't just look at the stats. If Ward had a better blueline in front of him he'd be posting much better numbers. The reason for his sub-par sophomore season is more the result of a Stanley Cup hangover and the fact that he probably didn't show up for camp in shape last season. When Frantisek effin' Kaberle is essentially your top defender, you got problems on that blueline.
You're right about the Canes being screwed if Ward goes down...but I don't think Bryz would be the solution, Rutherford could use his cap space toward a defensive acquisition or maybe even another scoring forward to replace the ever-injured Erik Cole. |
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Bosc Ulrich II
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Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Atlanta, depends on the seriousness of the Lehtonen injury. But why not? Gets Pavelec back in the AHL and you see if you've got a new goalie to go with Lehtonen for next year. If ownership approves, why not? |
That's just it though, Atlanta's owners can't even decide who owns the friggin' team let alone the netminding situation. |
Yeah, that's the catch. Two of these teams could be too hampered by their ownership situation to make a play on Bryz.  |
Didn't stop the Nucks from getting Luongo, did it?
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razzmatazz
Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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Location: Burnaby, B.C.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| If Manny's knee is fucked we would be interested, especially with Bergy out... |
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hammer
2 Legit 2 Quit
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Posts: 197
Location: Frisco
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Av-merican wrote: |
| hammer wrote: |
| Dead serious. I think Ward is highly overrated. His playoff run got him the rep as a big time goalie but he was average or below average last year and pretty average so far this year. He wins games because the Canes score a ton but his GAA and save % are basically Kolzig/Labarbera territory. Grahame is not good, so if anything happens to Ward this team that right now looks like it has potential to go deep in the playoffs goes downhill fast. Grabbing Bryz gives you a legit backup in case of injury to Ward and can push him. He's cheap and only on contract for a year so there is very little downside to grabbing him and huge potential upside. |
Ask sask about Ward's career (not that it's gospel or anything but hey he's done the research whereas I haven't). His talent is proven at every level he's played. He plays behind a team that employs a run-and-gun style and a defense that's nowhere near Stanley Cup caliber. It was his playoff heroics that won the Canes their Cup, don't just look at the stats. If Ward had a better blueline in front of him he'd be posting much better numbers. The reason for his sub-par sophomore season is more the result of a Stanley Cup hangover and the fact that he probably didn't show up for camp in shape last season. When Frantisek effin' Kaberle is essentially your top defender, you got problems on that blueline.
You're right about the Canes being screwed if Ward goes down...but I don't think Bryz would be the solution, Rutherford could use his cap space toward a defensive acquisition or maybe even another scoring forward to replace the ever-injured Erik Cole. |
He had a great Cup run, I just think he has been average since. Carolina D is no worse than Washington or LA so the stats comparison with Kolzig and Labarbera is valid IMO. Showing up at camp out of shape is a great reason to get someone to push him.
If I were the Hurricanes I'd want a solid back-up and I don't think cap space is a big issue with Bryz's reasonable salary, which is lower than Grahame's. It seems like these days goalies get hurt way more often and you need two solid goalies, with Bryz himself a good example of how this saved Anaheim in the playoffs. |
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Bosc Ulrich II
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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He had a great Cup run, I just think he has been average since. Carolina D is no worse than Washington or LA so the stats comparison with Kolzig and Labarbera is valid IMO. Showing up at camp out of shape is a great reason to get someone to push him.
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He showed up to camp in great shape this year after losing 20 pounds, not out of shape. I don't know if he was out of shape last season, or if it was just that he weighed a bunch more.
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Alabama Man
Now with 30% more rage!
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Bryzgalov on waivers |
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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=222992&hubname=
Wow. Shows you how tough the trade market really is. |
Would it be totally unrelated to now say the Toskala trade by JFJ was AWESOME!
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Not a bad start for the kid either - on a weak Phoenix team at that.
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Bosc Ulrich II
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Time to drop Hasek's potential 4.25 mil cap hit....
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