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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:12 am Post subject:

The Onkyo TX-SR605 (sounds like a state highway route in Texas) so far kicks much ass. I don't care if it is factory refurb, it came out of the box looking and smelling brand-new and everything seems to be working smoothly - Wii, '360, DVD, DVR, Center Ice, VCR all seem to be working just fine - no overheat issues as with the JVC, and the component/HDMI display assignment options seem to work very well. I think this factory-refurb thing is enough to make me rethink my purchase habits - if the manufacturer refurbs/reconditions it, and then puts a warranty behind it, why wouldn't you? I figure I must've saved 40% on this bad boy. The best part is that it came with a three year warranty. Man's Basement is back in business, and just in time for R6V2. Also bot DDR for the Wii for the missus. Should be fun. _________________ ... Because the old one, is well, old.

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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:46 am Post subject:

That thing have an HDMI switch built in? _________________ My blog is more awesome then your face

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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject:

Chuck wrote:

That thing have an HDMI switch built in?

Two HDMI in, one out to monitor... plus three component, a number of S-video and composite jacks, all of which can be upconverted to the HDMI out... Several optical audio jacks, too. Here's the lowdown... If you are looking for one that does just HDMI switching, there are cheaper options out there...
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject:

Hey, anybody have any experience with the HP Media Vault series? Are they any good? How do they work? Would I be better off with a dumbed-down PC? _________________ ... Because the old one, is well, old.

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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject:

I already have a receiver but she is a bit old. No HDMI support at all. Other then that she does everything I need her to do. Now with a PS3 , a 360 and a HD cable receiver I have more HDMI then I have inputs on the TV. I'm waiting for the arrival of an HDMI switcher I bought to fix that. _________________ My blog is more awesome then your face

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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject:

the New Cunning Linguist wrote:

Hey, anybody have any experience with the HP Media Vault series? Are they any good? How do they work? Would I be better off with a dumbed-down PC?

Do you really need NAS? Or could you get away with slapping a new HDD in one of the boxes on the network and sharing it out? Because for that price you can grab a 1TB HD
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject:

Chuck wrote:

the New Cunning Linguist wrote:

Hey, anybody have any experience with the HP Media Vault series? Are they any good? How do they work? Would I be better off with a dumbed-down PC?

Do you really need NAS? Or could you get away with slapping a new HDD in one of the boxes on the network and sharing it out? Because for that price you can grab a 1TB HD

That's what I am doing now... My old desktop pretty much serves as my print and file server at home.. But it's pretty decrepit and I doubt if it would support Vista (I use XP at home and I hear it'll have about two more years of life)... I just spent $240 replacing the HDs in it. Someone else I know uses a media vault for all his music, photos, and video library. I just thought a media vault like this would save me the trouble of having to maintain an old Pentium...
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject:

the New Cunning Linguist wrote:

Chuck wrote:

the New Cunning Linguist wrote:

Hey, anybody have any experience with the HP Media Vault series? Are they any good? How do they work? Would I be better off with a dumbed-down PC?

Do you really need NAS? Or could you get away with slapping a new HDD in one of the boxes on the network and sharing it out? Because for that price you can grab a 1TB HD

Does your router have a USB port? Anyone know how an external USB hard drive drive plugged into a router with a USB port performs as a media share?
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:57 am Post subject:

So now it seems the XBox wireless network adapter that I have has crapped out... If it's not one thing, it's another. It's essentially a wireless gaming bridge, and I didn't pay anything for it, but I'm loathe to buy the XBox 360 wireless network adapter ($99) when my router it about 20' away; so I've got some Cat5 cable that I grabbed from my neighbor - he had left a spool of it out on the curb - and a crimping tool to make the terminals, but it's turning out to be more challenging to insert that cable into the end correctly. I at least was able to play R6V2 for several hours (coop, before the adapter died, and solo) this weekend - what great fun. Strangest thing because it worked just fine for 8-10 hours on Thursday night and since then nothing. The 360 recognizes that its there but it fails at the "CMP" test - whatever that is (second one from the top)... I tried everything including powering everything down (router and modem included) just as the Xbox/help resources suggest and nothing. Anyway, I know my wireless network is fine, since I had my laptop set up and it was talking to the router just fine. Anyone have any suggestions? Also got a good deal on some Velcro cable ties at Office Depot - 50 ties for $3. _________________ ... Because the old one, is well, old.

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:09 am Post subject:

the New Cunning Linguist wrote:

So now it seems the XBox wireless network adapter that I have has crapped out... Rolling Eyes

If it's not one thing, it's another. It's essentially a wireless gaming bridge, and I didn't pay anything for it, but I'm loathe to buy the XBox 360 wireless network adapter ($99) when my router it about 20' away; so I've got some Cat5 cable that I grabbed from my neighbor - he had left a spool of it out on the curb - and a crimping tool to make the terminals, but it's turning out to be more challenging to insert that cable into the end correctly. I at least was able to play R6V2 for several hours (coop, before the adapter died, and solo) this weekend - what great fun.

Strangest thing because it worked just fine for 8-10 hours on Thursday night and since then nothing. The 360 recognizes that its there but it fails at the "CMP" test - whatever that is (second one from the top)... I tried everything including powering everything down (router and modem included) just as the Xbox/help resources suggest and nothing. Anyway, I know my wireless network is fine, since I had my laptop set up and it was talking to the router just fine. Anyone have any suggestions?

Also got a good deal on some Velcro cable ties at Office Depot - 50 ties for $3.

Cat5 is cheap if you're willing to run the cord across the floor or whatever. You should be able to get a 40' cable from a computer outlet store for 10 bucks or less.

What about a wireless access point? They're cheaper than 100 bucks for the 360 adapter, I think.
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:51 am Post subject:

Bosc Ulrich II wrote:

the New Cunning Linguist wrote:

So now it seems the XBox wireless network adapter that I have has crapped out... Rolling Eyes

Well, I was given the old Xbox wireless gaming adapter; what do you mean by the wireless access point? can you give an example of one? I looked at Powerline ethernet, wireless gaming adapters, and all of those are more than $100.

I'd like to try the Cat5 since it is by far the cheapest option - I already have a spool of it and the crimping tool; I'm the only one who plays online, and even so, it's only once a week so running an extra cable across the ground wouldn't be a problem. Also, I want to make absolutely sure that there isn't something else that is wrong with the system... Of course, I could simply move my modem and router closer to the console cabinet so I wouldn't have to run 25' of Cat5... Idea

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:58 am Post subject:

the New Cunning Linguist wrote:

Bosc Ulrich II wrote:

the New Cunning Linguist wrote:

So now it seems the XBox wireless network adapter that I have has crapped out... Rolling Eyes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_access_point

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1070699&CatId=372

My understanding is that a wireless access point connects to your router, and then you connect devices(in this case your Crashbox) to the access point. I think many routers can act as access points as well, so you have one router connected to the router connected to your internet.

Hmm, I might be wrong. Could be that the access point connects to the rounter, but your devices connect wirelessly to the access point. I thought the access point provided a spot for wired devices to connect to the AP, and then the AP connects wirelessly to the router. Anyone ever used one of the damn things?
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject:

I never much liked the Xbox networking adapter. The few people I know that have it have nothing but problems and I have a strict rule about networking devices and USB. Don't cross the streams. At the same time my wife doesn't want network cable running across the floor. My solution? The Linksys WET54G bridge. My 360 is connected to one via ethernet so it thinks it is a wired device, all the wireless shit is handled by the bridge. Up until the update that allowed the 360 to play Xvid/Divx encoded video I had a hub sitting behind the bridge with a computer connected to it. Everything worked perfectly. _________________ My blog is more awesome then your face

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject:

Chuck wrote:

I never much liked the Xbox networking adapter. The few people I know that have it have nothing but problems and I have a strict rule about networking devices and USB. Don't cross the streams. At the same time my wife doesn't want network cable running across the floor. My solution?
The Linksys WET54G bridge. My 360 is connected to one via ethernet so it thinks it is a wired device, all the wireless shit is handled by the bridge. Up until the update that allowed the 360 to play Xvid/Divx encoded video I had a hub sitting behind the bridge with a computer connected to it. Everything worked perfectly.

Was it a bridge that I was thinking of, not an access point?
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject:

Bosc Ulrich II wrote:

Was it a bridge that I was thinking of, not an access point?

Yup. I've seen them advertised and sold as APs but they are really called bridges.
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject:

Chuck wrote:

Bosc Ulrich II wrote:

Was it a bridge that I was thinking of, not an access point?

Yup. I've seen them advertised and sold as APs but they are really called bridges.

At these prices, I may as well suck it up and get the '360 adapter... Mad

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject:

the New Cunning Linguist wrote:

Chuck wrote:

Bosc Ulrich II wrote:

Was it a bridge that I was thinking of, not an access point?

Yup. I've seen them advertised and sold as APs but they are really called bridges.

At these prices, I may as well suck it up and get the '360 adapter... Mad

Well, the bridge will give you some flexibility in the event that you want to hook up more shit later or you switch up your configuration or move or whatever. The xbox one you're just getting a proprietary thing that you may have zero use for later on, right?
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject:

Bosc Ulrich II wrote:

That's a good point; it seems everything nowadays has some USB or ethernet port - even the A/v receivers that I was looking at had these for future firmware updates. I'll look around - thanks for the suggestion... Smile

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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:44 am Post subject:

I've figured out a much, much simpler way to fix this... I feel stoopid for not thinking of it sooner ... It'll be a bit of a hassle, but it's really only once a week, at most... I can just move my DSL modem and router next to the Xbox 360... I have a phone jack and plenty of AC power there anyway... I'm going to try it tomorrow night and see if everything works... In the meantime, I'll also try to update the firmware on the MN-740 ; perhaps that'll kick it back to the land of the living. _________________ ... Because the old one, is well, old.

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:21 am Post subject:

Found one of these on Craigslist used(guy says literally used once, so who knows ) for $230. http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665061595 It'd be nice to have, but I'd actually rather get one that has more optical inputs and maybe a couple of outlet plugs. My TV has 3 HDMI, so I don't really need that capability in a receiver. I might be able to find a used one that's actually cheaper than one of those. If I'm going to buy a PS3 though, I can't go and blow a bunch of dough on a receiver _________________ Bring back the old OTP!

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