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E.L.3000
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 Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: Yuri Alexandrov going back to the draft |
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http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/articles/2008/05/18/willing_to_pass_up_a_shot/
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| he Bruins have resigned themselves to being unable to sign Russian defenseman Yuri Alexandrov, whom they picked 37th in the 2006 draft. He will go back into this year's draft and the Bruins, said Chiarelli, will not receive a compensatory pick |
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Av-merican
Un-Tenured Professor of Hockey
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| Boston has worse luck with Russians than a Chechnyan terrorist. |
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hipcheck
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Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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Location: The Box
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| Anders Myrvold, who came to Boston with Landon Wilson in the Nov. 22, 1996, deal that had the Bruins send the Avs their first-round draft pick in '98, |
Wh-wh-whaaat????????????
You mean Boston actually traded a first rounder to the Avs to gain this career "healthy scratch" Landon Wilson?
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razzmatazz
Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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Location: Burnaby, B.C.
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Yup, I remember that deal. Wilson started off ok then faded into, well, Landon Wilson.
Alexandrov is a good defenseman. Dunno if it's the Russian transfer thing or what, but why would we ever draft another one. Stay home comrades... |
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hipcheck
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I don't remember the deal, but I remember Wilson
In those days we weren't even cognizant of the draft
It was irrelevant in Boston...draft picks didn't make the team
Wilson was the guy who infuriated us before the game even started
As soon as we heard he WASN'T a scratch, we were livid
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razzmatazz
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It wasn't a great first rounder, but it was when Colorado was hoarding first rounders in an attempt to trade all of them for the one pick needed to select Vincent Lecavalier  |
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Av-merican
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Oh shit...don't remind me of that draft. We had a ton of first rounders and who did we pick? Alex Tanguay, Martin Skoula, Robyn Regehr, and Scott FUCKING Parker...  I really have no earthly idea what the hell Lacroix was thinking with that last pick. That scout better have been fired afterwards. I actually like the Sheriff, but seriously. A first rounder!?
Anyhow, this is the B's forum...carry on. |
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Bosc Ulrich II
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| Av-merican wrote: |
Oh shit...don't remind me of that draft. We had a ton of first rounders and who did we pick? Alex Tanguay, Martin Skoula, Robyn Regehr, and Scott FUCKING Parker... I really have no earthly idea what the hell Lacroix was thinking with that last pick. That scout better have been fired afterwards. I actually like the Sheriff, but seriously. A first rounder!?
Anyhow, this is the B's forum...carry on. |
Lacroix also took Belak in the first round 
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Av-merican
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| Bosc Ulrich II wrote: |
Lacroix also took Belak in the first round |
Well I can at least chalk that up to nepotism, just like the Sauve and Stastny picks, and virtually every coach in the organization. Parker made absolutely no sense, even with the somewhat decent numbers he put up in Kelowna. |
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saskhab
'03-'04 Goalie Profiles Coming Soon!
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Meh, a decent amount of first rounders don't pan out at all. If the occasional one finds a career as a goon, that's better than nothing. It may look hilarious in hindsight, but hey, Wade Belak is a better NHLer than fellow ex-Blade Scott Scissions ever was.
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Bosc Ulrich II
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| saskhab wrote: |
| Meh, a decent amount of first rounders don't pan out at all. If the occasional one finds a career as a goon, that's better than nothing. It may look hilarious in hindsight, but hey, Wade Belak is a better NHLer than fellow ex-Blade Scott Scissions ever was. |
True dat
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saskhab
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And if you were to re-do that draft in order of which players ended up being the best, Belak would probably end up in the 2nd round somewhere... so that type of pick wasn't a huge stretch in hindsight.
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hipcheck
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Anyhow, this is the B's forum...carry on. |
It's all good, Av .... six degrees of separation and all
This time of year, any conversation in the Bruins forum is all good
I remember the Sega Genesis hockey game, a friend of mine had it
I didn't much play video games back then, but he let everyone pick a team
the guy who had the Bruins (former OTP member Rebel) always made sure to scratch Wilson before the start of every game
I "got stuck with" the Rags ... they had recently won a Cup 
Anyways, being video game challenged, I couldn't do anything but check and fight, and was getting drubbed on a regular basis.
Enough of that, I engineered a trade
I gave Detroit (CPU) Mark Messier, Adam Graves, and one other of their other best players for Sergei Federov and Vladdy Konstantinov 
My trade offers were getting denied repeatedly (we were only allowed to make two offers before we had to wait in case someone else wanted to make a trade, so my trade took almost a week to pull off)
When I finally sweetened the deal to include the Rags 3 best players, the guy who owned the game said
"Nick, you're giving away your whole team. If you really want Federov, concentrate on him and forget that other defenseman dude"
Ah, so naive that "other defenseman dude" was a key to the trade
Vladdy was definitely a sleeper in the game...I think he was a 70 something
But he was great at the things I needed
1) he could skate
2) he could hit...oh, fuck could he hit
3) he could fight
Getting Federov meant I could at least score a fucking goal once in awhile,
but getting Vladdy significantly improved me in the area I was already good at
Instead of being the guy everyone wanted to play, I was the one they HATED playing against
Conversely, years later when I had finally grasped this video game thingy,
we did the same thing, and I had the Buffalo Sabres
I pulled off the same type of trade in reverse
I traded Alexander Mogilny to the Penguins for 3 players, the LEAST of whom was Ron Francis (I strangely do not recall who the others were)
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razzmatazz
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| btw, saw an article that said we get a reprieve and keep Alexandrov's rights because of the transfer agreement issues... |
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saskhab
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| btw, saw an article that said we get a reprieve and keep Alexandrov's rights because of the transfer agreement issues... |
That is correct. The 2 year rule only applies to players under the IIHF agreement. Russians are indefinite at this point. Which is why I don't understand how many teams passed on Cherapanov last year...
I actually thought Alexandrov was playing in the Q for some reason, I must've had him confused with someone else. If he were in the Q, he'd have been under the 2 year rule.
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Bosc Ulrich II
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| saskhab wrote: |
| razzmatazz wrote: |
| btw, saw an article that said we get a reprieve and keep Alexandrov's rights because of the transfer agreement issues... |
That is correct. The 2 year rule only applies to players under the IIHF agreement. Russians are indefinite at this point. Which is why I don't understand how many teams passed on Cherapanov last year...
I actually thought Alexandrov was playing in the Q for some reason, I must've had him confused with someone else. If he were in the Q, he'd have been under the 2 year rule. |
This guy?
In EL's draft preview for that year, he had the Wings taking one of the two...I can't remember which of the two it was though. I think it was Ivan, the Q guy.
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