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Av-merican
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Location: Denver
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Query: They are not my cup of tea but why do most folks in here seem to despise Nickleback? They appear to be a sort of middle of the road classic rock act. I don't find them particularly memorable or horribly ojectionable either. If they never existed I would not miss them but the dislike they appear to generate seems out of proportion to, in my eyes, their apparent harmlessness. Can someone explain the intense dislike they seem to engender? Just curious
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Av-merican
Un-Tenured Professor of Hockey
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Location: Denver
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| RW wrote: |
| Query: They are not my cup of tea but why do most folks in here seem to despise Nickleback? They appear to be a sort of middle of the road classic rock act. I don't find them particularly memorable or horribly ojectionable either. If they never existed I would not miss them but the dislike they appear to generate seems out of proportion to, in my eyes, their apparent harmlessness. Can someone explain the intense dislike they seem to engender? Just curious |
Perhaps it's because they're radio-friendly pop-rock, which means they get played on ALL the stations (Top 40, rock, alternative, easy listening) and like Matchbox 20 before them, they're getting played into the friggin' ground.
I'm not a big fan, but I don't necessarily switch the dial when they come on either. |
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DH
Lloyd's Minster
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Posts: 362
Location: Alberta
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| As I stated last night...much as I hate Nickelback they aren't as bad as Buckcherry... |
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Bosc Ulrich II
OTP Resident Historian
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Posts: 3192
Location: Sweetest lid in the league
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| RW wrote: |
| Query: They are not my cup of tea but why do most folks in here seem to despise Nickleback? They appear to be a sort of middle of the road classic rock act. I don't find them particularly memorable or horribly ojectionable either. If they never existed I would not miss them but the dislike they appear to generate seems out of proportion to, in my eyes, their apparent harmlessness. Can someone explain the intense dislike they seem to engender? Just curious |
Perhaps it's because they're radio-friendly pop-rock, which means they get played on ALL the stations (Top 40, rock, alternative, easy listening) and like Matchbox 20 before them, they're getting played into the friggin' ground.
I'm not a big fan, but I don't necessarily switch the dial when they come on either. |
Not only this but Chad Kroeger, the lead singer, has taken it upon himself to create/sign other bands(one of whom was a band that I liked a ton, Big Wreck, and when they broke up the main dude Ian Thornley signed on) on his label that are pretty much the exact same thing as Nickelback...to the point where I think it was found out that he was even writing some of their songs.
There was one Nickelback songs from an album like 10 years ago that I liked, I think their first single(Leader of Men, which is indeed on my mp3 player)...after that, they're just annoying. I don't find anything redeeming or original about their music. Like Av says, it gets overplayed to hell(How You Remind Me...shudder...), and there are many other Canadian bands that are much better that don't have nearly the amount of attention and so when you mention Canadian music, Nickelback is one of the first mentioned. Not to mention CANCON, which means that Nickelback or one of the other label clone bands are jammed down the throats of the listening public pretty much every hour on every mainstream station.
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E.L.3000
Big in Japan
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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Location: MTL Police: stay out ma bizness
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Why do most folks in here seem to despise Nickleback? |
http://www.chartattack.com/DAMN/2008/03/1130.cfm
Seriously though, it's what Nickelback represents that irritates me:
drunken, slack-jawed, poorly-educated, middle Canadians who've never left their Southern Ontario trailerpark. The ones who say "seen" when it should be "saw." The ones who think Don Cherry is an intelligent man worthy of our respect. The ones who cry about those damn foreigners taking our jerbs. The ones who brag about homemade methods to avoid getting hangovers, or makeshift bongs made from toilet seats. The ones who are so insecure the punches start flying when someone just looks at their girlfriend. The ones who are so insanely homophobic yet think Jackass is the greatest TV show on Earth.
You might wonder how Nickelback can represent an entire subdivision of people, but if you were at Woodstock en Beauce in 2004 (I think that was the year), you would understand what I'm talking about. Unfair as it may be, I learned a lot about the vocal majority of Canadian society that day, and Nickelback were the court jesters, marching us into oblivion. The smell of terrible weed, urine and stale Molson still invade my senses every time I hear an arena's PA system blaring a Nickelback tune. So derivative, so underwhelming, yet so proud of being so. It's about being completely ignorant and oblivious to our ever-changing world, but being so aggressively and vocally proud about it. Nickelback does what so many in the margins do: settle. Settling for a tired refrain, a copied riff, lack of emotion, lack of progression.
I think Jarvis Cocker said it best in "Common People."
"You'll never do what common people do
You'll never fail like common people
You'll never watch your life slide out of view, and dance and drink and screw
Because there's nothing else to do."
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saskhab
'03-'04 Goalie Profiles Coming Soon!
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There is nothing rock and roll about Hanna, AB. Trust me... I've been there. Many times.
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US679 Part Deux
An improvement over the US678 prototype
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Location: Milton, Ontario
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| There is nothing rock and roll about Hanna, AB. Trust me... I've been there. Many times. |
So have I. 
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treebait
The Master of 'Bait
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The anger I feel when I hear Nickelback is the same anger I feel when I hear the Tragically Hip.
Yeah, you're a MEDIOCRE pop-rock-country-whatever band. This should allow for you to occupy 5-10% of my listening time on a standard radio station. Because of our ridiculous Canadian content regulations, you now occupy more than 30% (!!!) of that time. That excess percentage of air time that you are now occupying could be used to give exposure to emerging artists, or to merely provide some (ANY) variety or alternative to the mindless drivel you pump out every two years on your formulaic pop-rock-western hoedown-beebop album! Long story short, radio stations kill these otherwise 'adequate' bands by playing them to death. I actually liked some of these songs the first 50-100 times I was subjected to them! Now I want to punch Chad Kroeger in his snooty, muppet-looking face!
I understand the reasons behind can-con, and I can even get behind them to some extent. But there needs to be a better system for implementing this form of cultural 'protection'. The only thing can-con accomplishes for me is to make it necessary for me to change the station that much more often. Cancon is a half-measure that isn't properly regulated and, as such, isn't properly effective. (At least, I am assuming that my violent anti-Canadian music stance is NOT what the CRTC had in mind when they implemented it)
For an interesting take on re-working Cancon
http://www.letsfixcancon.ca/
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Av-merican
Un-Tenured Professor of Hockey
Joined: 17 Oct 2007
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Location: Denver
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| E.L.3000 wrote: |
| drunken, slack-jawed, poorly-educated, middle Canadians who've never left their Southern Ontario trailerpark. The ones who say "seen" when it should be "saw." The ones who think Don Cherry is an intelligent man worthy of our respect. The ones who cry about those damn foreigners taking our jerbs. The ones who brag about homemade methods to avoid getting hangovers, or makeshift bongs made from toilet seats. The ones who are so insecure the punches start flying when someone just looks at their girlfriend. The ones who are so insanely homophobic yet think Jackass is the greatest TV show on Earth. |
Cool...we have people like that on this side of the border too!
http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/ftp/multimedia/waffleweddingx/publish_to_web/ |
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Tuzer
No longer Croozing
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| E.L.3000 wrote: |
| RW wrote: |
| Why do most folks in here seem to despise Nickleback? |
http://www.chartattack.com/DAMN/2008/03/1130.cfm
Seriously though, it's what Nickelback represents that irritates me:
drunken, slack-jawed, poorly-educated, middle Canadians who've never left their Southern Ontario trailerpark. The ones who say "seen" when it should be "saw." The ones who think Don Cherry is an intelligent man worthy of our respect. The ones who cry about those damn foreigners taking our jerbs. The ones who brag about homemade methods to avoid getting hangovers, or makeshift bongs made from toilet seats. The ones who are so insecure the punches start flying when someone just looks at their girlfriend. The ones who are so insanely homophobic yet think Jackass is the greatest TV show on Earth.
You might wonder how Nickelback can represent an entire subdivision of people, but if you were at Woodstock en Beauce in 2004 (I think that was the year), you would understand what I'm talking about. Unfair as it may be, I learned a lot about the vocal majority of Canadian society that day, and Nickelback were the court jesters, marching us into oblivion. The smell of terrible weed, urine and stale Molson still invade my senses every time I hear an arena's PA system blaring a Nickelback tune. So derivative, so underwhelming, yet so proud of being so. It's about being completely ignorant and oblivious to our ever-changing world, but being so aggressively and vocally proud about it. Nickelback does what so many in the margins do: settle. Settling for a tired refrain, a copied riff, lack of emotion, lack of progression.
I think Jarvis Cocker said it best in "Common People."
"You'll never do what common people do
You'll never fail like common people
You'll never watch your life slide out of view, and dance and drink and screw
Because there's nothing else to do." |
So you like them? No? |
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MrBumpnGrind
Illegitimate Luongo Child
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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The anger I feel when I hear Nickelback is the same anger I feel when I hear the Tragically Hip.
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Av-merican
Un-Tenured Professor of Hockey
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Location: Denver
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This makes me feel sad...or old...or both.
http://lostateminor.cmail5.com/e/478631/wedd4tt/
I don't know the artist, I don't know his band, and the only song he lists that I know of is General Public's "Tenderness." Oy vey...  |
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saskhab
'03-'04 Goalie Profiles Coming Soon!
Joined: 17 Oct 2007
Posts: 3356
Location: Saskatoon!
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| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Av-merican wrote: |
This makes me feel sad...or old...or both.
http://lostateminor.cmail5.com/e/478631/wedd4tt/
I don't know the artist, I don't know his band, and the only song he lists that I know of is General Public's "Tenderness." Oy vey... |
Don't worry. He's an art rocker from New York. He ends up seeing a lot of bands no one else can see because they can't afford the gas to Boston, let alone Denver.
Band of Horses are really good, though. And I've seen Tokyo Police Club a couple times. Other than that, I don't know much about the bands on his list, though I am aware of Les Savy Fav (his band), but not a huge fan.
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E.L.3000
Big in Japan
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The only band listed worth knowing is Band of Horses. A bit corny perhaps, but very good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfX6WTOmt5E
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Farang
Chaser, Wearer of Skirts
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| I don't mind Black Kids. |
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Av-merican
Un-Tenured Professor of Hockey
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Location: Denver
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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http://lostateminor.cmail3.com/e/483858/wedd4tt/
Okay, that's better...I at least know the Brothers Johnson and Madness. No one else though.
Uh oh, I got "Strawberry Letter 22" in my head now... |
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