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Captain Chaos
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuzer wrote:
That 2nd pic is great CC,Is that you?


Nope, I stole it off the web. It's a view from East Sooke Park.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3-1 Stars and McIntyre is in for Sanford. 5 Minutes into the 2nd. Yuck.
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Captain Chaos
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Into the 3rd with the dreaded 2 goal deficit. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick a fork in this team... They're done. Mad
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Captain Chaos
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4-1 on a short handed goal....

my oh my...

The West Coast Express could have given me hope for a comeback, but this game is over tonight.

Night All.
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Tuzer
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well,The worst record in the NHL for the last 10 games now belongs to YOURRRRR VANCOOOOOOOVERRRR CANUCKS!!!! with 7 measly points and a paltry 3-6-1 record Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody please explain to me why with scoring such a question mark Nazzy has less than 15 minutes icetime and most of that time is spent with brad Isbister? WTF! I know he's not the Nazzy of the past BUT he is our 6 million dollar man. If the team needs to look to someone to get us going HE needs to be on the ice! Pyatt looked better without the cage on but still lacking the finish if he's supposed to have such chemistry with the twins where's his 35 goals? Cowan's dfinitely more than slightly retarded these days if yer gonna pick a bad fight at least pick one you can win!
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Cannots Luvah
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah , Naslund needed to play like its game 7 in a game where you're missing so many key players. With that being said , Isbister and Raymond as his centre?.. thats as brutal as a 2nd line you'll find in the entire NHL , not too many guys who would shine with that crew.

Speaking of that , Jaffray didnt play again and the Canucks didnt win again.. could be a coincidence but just saying , Jaffray is the key to the Stanley Cup.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cannots Luvah wrote:
Speaking of that , Jaffray didnt play again and the Canucks didnt win again.. could be a coincidence but just saying , Jaffray is the key to the Stanley Cup.

Now that you mention it... I don't think the Senators had Jaffray in the lineup - and they lost in the SCE... Same thing with Edmonton the year before in Game 7... I think you may be on to something.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On TV they said after the 1st period that Naslund had only played 3 minutes and 1:17 had been on the PP. I heard on 1040 this morning that only MacIvor and someone else played fewer 1st period minutes than Naslund. Vigneault seems to have had issues with many of the Crawford era players at one time or another. Included have been Linden, Cooke and Morrison. Coincidently or not, all are UFAs at the end of this season.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont get Vigneault's treatment of Linden , bench him for 3-4 straight games while others keep on playing. Has nothing to do with rest , he's not 80 yrs old. Linden is better than Isbister in every which way , yet Linden gets no room for error.. one bad shift he gets benched , whereas Ritchie and Isbister could literally shoot the puck into their own net on purpose , give Vingeault the finger and Vigneault will still have them out there on the PP2 unit.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of right now there are 3 forwards on the Nucks that have skill. The Sedins and Nazzy. That's it. Everybody else is interchangable. The Nucks were winning when they had the skilled players together. Everybody else was together to keep the puck out of the net. Then Nazzy wasn't scoring as much with the Sedins, but the Nucks were still winning. So Vin takes Nazzy off the line. That did nothing for Nazzys scoring and the Nucks start losing. Everybody wants to hope that Raymond and Jaffray have the skill that it takes to makes a good player in the NHL right now. That's not the case. Who knows, mabye they will be in the future. But not right now. Kesler shows signs of a skilled player every now and then, but what has he done for us lately? Nothing. Most people want Nazzy to be traded. What are we going to get for him? A skilled player back? So were in the same boat as before. 3 skilled players and a bunch of 3 and 4th line players on any other team in the league. The best move for us would be a packaged deal with some of our interchangeable players for 1 or 2 skillled players. Who cares how many we get rid of to get the skill in. We need more skill if we want to get any better, otherwise we might as well play for the draft.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too would prefer to see Linden out there so I can cheer for one of my favorite players but, other than smart, safe hockey, he doesn't bring a lot to the game anymore.

It may be that AV knows what Linden brings but is hoping to be surprised by what the younger guys might do if they find their game.

And, quite frankly, I thought Naslund had too 'many' minutes on the ice in the last game.

I think we've shown enough patience. I'm ready to strip the 'C' off Nazzy's sweater.
No captain can lollygag to the bench in a losing cause.

He's leading the team 'where' ???

A captain should be the heart and soul of a team.
If Naslund's play of late represents the Canucks heart and soul...we might as well pack it in now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My question is, who gets the C then?

Ohlund's the only guy i can think of.

Everybody is so quick to rip Nazzy up becaus eof the cash he makes. Does he have anybody to play with? Not really. Unless he plays with the Sedins. Has his play been top notch. No. Is he a good captain? Nobody can tells us that but the players on the team and the coach. Of course we all expect the most out of him. He's supose to be our go to guy. He's not doing his job on the ice most of the time but he's playing with 3rd and 4th liners most of the time. There's a full team out there that isn't performing. Not just one guy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus the 'C' doesn't matter. If a player is a leader, he'll lead. All the 'C' does is let him talk to the refs.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jyrki21 wrote:
Plus the 'C' doesn't matter. If a player is a leader, he'll lead. All the 'C' does is let him talk to the refs.


I agree. I'm pretty sure when Linden is playing he's one of the best leaders on and off the ice even with out the C.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never ripped Nazzy for his point production...or lack thereof.

I was one of his loyal supporters last year as I watched him lead the team into a new, defensive style, sacrificing his own style to do it.

Anyone with an 'A' can also talk to the refs. The 'C' is to represent the face of the franchise.

Marcus is the highest paid skater and has the honour of being the team's captain.
With the honour comes responsibility.
The organization is saying Marcus represents the type of player they most value.
I don't demand that he score but I do demand that he lead by example.

He's not doing either.

When faced with adversity, he acts depressed and coasts.

Does that remind you of any other highly skilled player we don't miss?

The most skilled Canuck who constantly shows passion, intensity and determination is Kesler. He should be wearing the 'C' as the face of the franchise since, if the entire team played with his effort, we'd be a much better team.

But he's still young.

Do I want Kesler to have the 'C' ???
No; of course not.

I want Naslund to play like Kesler and keep the 'C'.
Or he can play like Iginla and keep the 'C'.
Or he can play like Sundin and keep the 'C'.
Or he can play like .........
If that results in more goals, all the better.
If it results only in the other players trying harder, playing with more urgency, playing with more of an edge when the chips are down...good enough.

I think AV might reunite Naslund with the twins and put Pyatt back with Raymond and Jaffray, but Nazzy then has to drive the net. We can't have all three of our offensive talents on the perimeter unless AV gives the D the green light to jump in to the slot.

And we sure as hell can't have our captain, and apparent leader, playing without intensity and determination.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whistler wrote:
I think AV might reunite Naslund with the twins and put Pyatt back with Raymond and Jaffray, but Nazzy then has to drive the net.


This would be the best move in my mind. It worked in the past. It will probly work again. AV is just so quick to change shit when it's not working for a short period of time. Last time Nazzy was with the twins it sparked him for a bit and looked like things were going to be just fine. Then he dried up a bit but not entirely and the Nucks were still winning and AV takes him off the line. What matters in hockey? The W. That is it. So stick with what worked in the past.

How would the Sedins play if they werent kept together. They'd be fucking lost, confused and would probly look just like Nazzy is right now. I know it's hard only having one scoring line, but that's all we have until Nonnis takes his head out of his ass.
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