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Cannots Luvah
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the rumoured deal FLA wanted for OJ was:

Kesler
Edler
1st rd pick

no stories on what Nonis was offering.


.... Im usually a guy who likes to wheel and deal and is a big fan of OJ but I dont blame Nonis for passing on that one.
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Av-merican
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jokinen has proven he's a great talent in his own right, but he has yet to prove he's the kind of player who makes others around him better. So far he's Pavel Bure II for the Panthros...a guy who puts up a lot of pretty numbers on a lousy team. I agree, I would've passed on that deal too.
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Jyrki21
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for what was offered for Richards, take it for what it's worth:

Iain MacIntyre wrote:

A source with insider knowledge of the sweepstakes for Richards said Monday that Nonis had offered the Lightning rookie Mason Raymond and prospects Luc Bourdon and Cory Schneider, although the Canuck boss insisted Tuesday that none of his best young players - Raymond, Alex Edler and Ryan Kesler - was ever put up for trade.

Tampa general manager Jay Feaster traded Richards to Dallas for backup goalie Mike Smith and third-line forwards Jussi Jokinen and Jeff Halpern.

"We put packages out there that in our mind, and I think in a lot of people's minds, were superior to the packages that were accepted," Nonis said.

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Cannots Luvah
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well , it would had been nice to add a stud player but life goes on. Fine by me caz Bourdon and Raymonds' value are only rising. Shcnieder's value was low to begin with so hopefully his stock will rise again.

and lets hope these "other people" are scouts or GMs for other teams!lol
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Cannots Luvah
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apparently FLA was asking a for little more(more picks or prospect) with that package.

You can see why darryl Sutter got the F out of those trade talks
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cannots Luvah wrote:
.... Im usually a guy who likes to wheel and deal and is a big fan of OJ

I can confirm this about Luvah -- he once offered me two-thirds of his Out of This World DVD collection in return for my biography of Lance Ito.
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Cannots Luvah
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holy cripes!!!, is that the show with the girl with the alien dad who can stop time ?!?

Can I admit I was addicted to the OJ trial on tv. COincidentally , the whole OJ murder/white bronco chase happened right after the 94 finals.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jyrki21 wrote:
Cannots Luvah wrote:
.... Im usually a guy who likes to wheel and deal and is a big fan of OJ

I can confirm this about Luvah -- he once offered me two-thirds of his Out of This World DVD collection in return for my biography of Lance Ito.
Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's worse than I thought ---Cooke only got traded because he asked for a trade---

Hey Av-American between the kings clb,chi,stl & tor,fla & tb there was no deal to be made for 1 fwd.
He couldn't have outbid philly for Prospal? what does it take to land Bochenski? a right handed shot who was worth a look on a team desperate for offence- would certainly be worth a 7th ?
Wink

Had Cooke not asked for a trade Nonis would have had accomplished nothing.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freakydave wrote:
It's worse than I thought ---Cooke only got traded because he asked for a trade---

Hey Av-American between the kings clb,chi,stl & tor,fla & tb there was no deal to be made for 1 fwd.
He couldn't have outbid philly for Prospal? what does it take to land Bochenski? a right handed shot who was worth a look on a team desperate for offence- would certainly be worth a 7th ?
Wink

Had Cooke not asked for a trade Nonis would have had accomplished nothing.
Dude?We're on a 4 game Win streak with only 1 reg.loss in the last 10 and we're gonna win again tonight,So whats the problem? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I would have liked Bochenski for a small return, let's face it, the Internet pundits would be all over Nonis for that one anyway -- "That's the best he can do?!?! He suxxx!"
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/sports/story.html?id=33236655-d98a-4f7e-98d3-4e27a192a257&p=1

Coles/Cliff Notes: Forsberg chose Colorado over everyone else not because of money, but becuase he felt his Colorado fans would be the most forgiving if this return didn't work out as well as he would hope.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woulda/coulda/shoulda... Mad

Damned you. hockey gods! Damned you all to hell!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the New Cunning Linguist wrote:
Woulda/coulda/shoulda... Mad

Damned you. hockey gods! Damned you all to hell!
It's only 5 points brother.Besides,We got Pettinger Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuzer wrote:
It's only 5 points brother.
Sure; but in that one game, he managed to outscore the entire team against Colorado.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bochenski put on 20 pounds of muscle this offseason, showed up slow as a slug, and had to work it all off to get into game shape. He would have been worse than Vadim Sharifjanov...
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Cannots Luvah
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

another story was released Martin also wanted a 2 for 1 package...Sedins for OJ.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cannots Luvah wrote:
another story was released Martin also wanted a 2 for 1 package...Sedins for OJ.
That would have really sucked Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tampa Bay wanted Edler, Kesler, Raymond, plus The canucks 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick for Richards!!
When the Canucks offered them their top 3 picks, as well as Schneider and Bourdon

while Martin wanted the Sedins for Olli

fuck that
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrBumpnGrind wrote:
Tampa Bay wanted Edler, Kesler, Raymond, plus The canucks 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick for Richards!!
When the Canucks offered them their top 3 picks, as well as Schneider and Bourdon

while Martin wanted the Sedins for Olli

fuck that
Exactly Bumpy,It would have been very similar to what Pittsburgh did,Sell the farm for one player??FuckTHAT is right Mad
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