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EC QF: (4) New Jersey vs. (5) New York Rangers
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:25 am    Post subject: EC QF: (4) New Jersey vs. (5) New York Rangers Reply with quote

Not many are talking about this matchup, but it's got high profile players and top notch goaltending. Brodeur has been dissing Lundqvist in the press (if SI counts as hockey press anymore), saying he doesn't like his goaltending style. They've been playing head games for weeks with each other and Sutter's been playing head games with his own team to try and get them going as well. Jagr's a head game all to himself, and that may be the difference maker here... Jagr's inability (or unwillingness) to mesh with Gomez or Drury has the 3 stars spread over 3 different lines, providing a balanced puck possession game, even if it isn't a dynamic offence.

And I haven't even mentioned Sean Avery yet.

For the Devils, it's a matter of getting the veteran scorers going, particularily Elias. Without Gomez, he's had a sub-par year. Gionta has found ways to score even playing on the RW of the famous checking duo of Pandolfo-Madden. Offensively, this is Parise's team by a long shot, and they'll need guys like Langenbrunner and Zubrus to step up with some big goals as well.

Both teams have largely no-name defenses, with the Rangers probably having the better crew anchored by Roszival.

The Devils have kind of had a rebuilding year, or at least as close to rebuilding as they get, trying to establish a good forecheck and be more aggressive. They've had trying moments this season, but they still came out with home ice in the first round, and Brodeur is still going to win the Vezina this year. But the Rangers won the season series quite decisively, by winning close games. We'll see if their much publicized off-season acquisitions pay off in the post-season, where their reputations have been made.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This series is good for the NHL. It gets New Yorkers relatively excited about hockey, and the Rags/Devs will likely play this one dirty.

I'm expecting an epic Avery/Clarkson showdown.

I'm also expecting the best goaltending of any series.

Low scoring, lots of hitting - should make for some older-style hockey.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's tough to get a read on this series, particularly for a Western Conference fan. I do believe in the rule established by the e-late Tommyboy, though, of never counting the Devils out.

I hope there's at least a bit of scoring -- I ended up taking a bit of a risk and taking Elias with my final pick in the office pool.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

E.L. wrote:
This series is good for the NHL. It gets New Yorkers relatively excited about hockey, and the Rags/Devs will likely play this one dirty.

I'm expecting an epic Avery/Clarkson showdown.

I'm also expecting the best goaltending of any series.

Low scoring, lots of hitting - should make for some older-style hockey.


Low scoring should be the norm for sure.

I imagine that the goaltending will be good on Jersey's side for sure, but I don't know how much of a challenge Jersey will pose for Henny Lundqvist, though he'll still be great of course. Jersey was 25th in goals scored, and only Anaheim scored fewer among all playoff teams. Although the Rags weren't much better.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like J21, I have some trouble reading this one, but I'll go with the Tommyboy rule, and stick with Brodeur and the Devils. Should be an interesting one to follow for sure.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if there was ever a time when Chris Drury actually shows up and earns his paycheck, it's now.

I think it'll come down to the goaltenders...and whether or not Jagr has one last playoff run in the tank.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrong again, Av! It's all about Scotty Gomez haunting his former team. What a performance!

Fucking Rangers. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck, could the refs have wanted to give that game to the Rangers any more? Brutal calls in the final minute, and usually it's Jersey getting away with the calls. Laughing

2-0 Rangers.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the Devs announcers were crying about a fairly weak cross check on Parise. Not like it mattered anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

harmfuljays wrote:
Yeah the Devs announcers were crying about a fairly weak cross check on Parise. Not like it mattered anyway.

They called a hook on Langenbrunner on a very mild pick play in the final minute. It was pretty weak considering they never call those plays even during the first month of the season. Then Callahan hooked Martin who ended up icing it. They got the icing overruled, but no penalty was called on the play. Sutter threw a stick on the ice in protest.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could live with Avery's behavior in front of Brodeur with one condition...that is nulls the instigator call.

On that note wonder what the over under in minutes is for when some Yahoo starts waiving his stick in front of my face tomorrow at Hockey?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow...I really wish someone would just give him the beating he deserves.

Rags can't boot this idiot off the team fast enough.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Av-merican wrote:
Wow...I really wish someone would just give him the beating he deserves.

Rags can't boot this idiot off the team fast enough.


As a Rag he's really been very effective though. Winning in pro sports out weights embarrassment.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hounsy wrote:
Av-merican wrote:
Wow...I really wish someone would just give him the beating he deserves.

Rags can't boot this idiot off the team fast enough.


As a Rag he's really been very effective though. Winning in pro sports out weights embarrassment.


No I realize how good he's been for them and how integral he's been to their success (which makes it all the more disgusting)...but to that I have to say that if your fortunes are tied that much to a waste of skin like that, then there's something seriously, seriously wrong with your organization.

After the very acrimonious arbitration hearing Avery and the Rags had this offseason I'd be beyond shocked if he re-signed. I wouldn't put it past Slats to make an offer, but I'd think he'd want to get as far away from New York and whatever "little black books" he's listed in as soon as the season ends...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hounsy wrote:

On that note wonder what the over under in minutes is for when some Yahoo starts waiving his stick in front of my face tomorrow at Hockey?


The minutes that the yahoo gets or the minutes that you'll get ? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the "Avery Rule" is now in effect...

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/24113267

I can hear the ref's say it now... "2 minute penalty for douchbaggotry"
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SLOTH wrote:
Looks like the "Avery Rule" is now in effect...

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/24113267

I can hear the ref's say it now... "2 minute penalty for douchbaggotry"


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Oh my god Sloth.

My oh-so-wise son Josh and I were talking about this exact thing last night - and he said a new penalty called "The Avery" should be implemented - and it means "unsportsmanlike" and general "douchebaggery"

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cherry versus Roenick on Avery
... and the winner is... CHERRY!

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"I think he wants to win," San Jose Sharks forward Jeremy Roenick told THE CANADIAN PRESS. "Sometimes he looks like an idiot and it may look bad, but it's probably effective. The kid is a competitor. He has a difficult job, but he's just trying to win night in and night out and that's what is the most important thing."

Outspoken telivision personality Don Cherry disagreed.

"I've known this kid since he was about 16 years old," Cherry told Toronto radio station The FAN 590. "Once a jerk, always a jerk. You can't blame the referee, because . he couldn't believe what he was seeing. Could you believe what you were seeing? I've never seen anything like that and I've been in every league that's ever existed."
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't see the game (thanks Versus I really wanted to see the Nashville Predators instead Rolling Eyes ) but looks like another solid performance by Gomez (2 goals, the first and the last, albeit the 2nd one was an empty-netter). Drury with two points, and hey lookee there! Marc Staal with the game-winner!!!

Best news of all...Dumbass Avery didn't notch so much as a single point. Shockingly enough I don't think he got a penalty either, though I doubt he wasn't deserving of one.

http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20072008/GS030144.HTM
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gomez did SO much on that EN goal... Laughing

Madden won the faceoff at centre ice cleanly.... past Elias and straight back into the empty net. Laughing

Easiest goal Gomez will ever score. Really, they should've done the old "which Ranger last touched the puck" rule and found someone that actually touched the puck on a previous play.

I wonder if Madden got credited with winning the faceoff. Laughing
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