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razzmatazz Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1654 Location: Burnaby, B.C.  |
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Look, I'm not advocating violence on the part of fans. But if I ever go to a Bruin game in Montreal, I'm gonna sit there, cheer respectully, and leave. Is that too much to ask on the part of Montreal fans? |
Razz?You don't have any idea of how to cheer respectfully,I can't believe that you actually said that bullshit,You are probably the most disrespectful ignorant person in B.C. and than you stand up all proud with your chest out and try to pretend that you have values beyond your disillusioned mindset???PUHLEEEEEEZE  |
Sorry all. Tuzer says I do actually advocate kicking the snot out of Hab fans in Boston. I must have been wrong. Thank you Tuzer for pointing out what I actually think. God was I out of line to go there myself... |
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Tuzer No longer Croozing

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 862
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| razzmatazz wrote: |
| Tuzer wrote: |
| razzmatazz wrote: |
| Look, I'm not advocating violence on the part of fans. But if I ever go to a Bruin game in Montreal, I'm gonna sit there, cheer respectully, and leave. Is that too much to ask on the part of Montreal fans? |
Razz?You don't have any idea of how to cheer respectfully,I can't believe that you actually said that bullshit,You are probably the most disrespectful ignorant person in B.C. and than you stand up all proud with your chest out and try to pretend that you have values beyond your disillusioned mindset???PUHLEEEEEEZE  |
Sorry all. Tuzer says I do actually advocate kicking the snot out of Hab fans in Boston. I must have been wrong. Thank you Tuzer for pointing out what I actually think. God was I out of line to go there myself... |
If it walks like a Duck
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harmfuljays King of Men

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1272 Location: Djibouti  |
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Razz is spiraling into madness with the Bruins taking it to game 7. _________________ -UP THE IRONS! |
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hammer 2 Legit 2 Quit

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 209 Location: Frisco  |
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: |
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This is just it - Hab fans really are over the top. You come to our city, you go on and on with your gay ass songs and your flag waving, boo our captain in our building.... and then you wonder why we hate you?
Look, I'm not advocating violence on the part of fans. But if I ever go to a Bruin game in Montreal, I'm gonna sit there, cheer respectully, and leave. Is that too much to ask on the part of Montreal fans? |
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
If you actually knew anything about Montreal or Boston you'd realize how ridiculous it is to suggest that Montreal fans are somehow out of line with their behavior in Boston. I grew up in Montreal and went to high school and college there. Whenever the Bruins were in town for a weekend game Crescent Street bars and St. Catherine strip clubs were overrun with Bruins fans. Loud, boisterous Bruins fans, often singing, chanting and yelling on the street. There was never any doubt the Bruins were in town. Some fans were obnoxious, and there were often brawls, and some were friendly and cool. I expect it is the same with Montreal fans in Boston. There is a long tradition of fans going back and forth between the cities and obnoxious behavior is definitely not one-sided. _________________
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E.L.3000 Big in Japan

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1575 Location: MTL Police: stay out ma bizness  |
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| If you actually knew anything about Montreal or Boston you'd realize how ridiculous it is to suggest that Montreal fans are somehow out of line with their behavior in Boston. I grew up in Montreal and went to high school and college there. Whenever the Bruins were in town for a weekend game Crescent Street bars and St. Catherine strip clubs were overrun with Bruins fans. Loud, boisterous Bruins fans, often singing, chanting and yelling on the street. There was never any doubt the Bruins were in town. Some fans were obnoxious, and there were often brawls, and some were friendly and cool. I expect it is the same with Montreal fans in Boston. There is a long tradition of fans going back and forth between the cities and obnoxious behavior is definitely not one-sided. |
You are correct sir. When the Bostoners and upstate NYers strike, most of us avoid Crescent and Ste-Catherine Street nudie bars like a clam chowder stenched plague. When F1 weekend hits -- forget it -- I'm hiding up in Parc Ex and waiting for the shit storm to die down.
Lest we forget, one of my favourite clubs, L'X, closed down because a bunch of drunk Bostoners smashed all the windows there after being kicked out for drinking too much. _________________ John McCain is fit as a fiddle… Is 71 the new 30?” - Fox News' Rich Lowry
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Av-merican Un-Tenured Professor of Hockey

Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 1994 Location: Denver  |
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Seriously, Razz, you lose what little credibility you have left when you call Boston "our city."  |
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hammer 2 Legit 2 Quit

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 209 Location: Frisco  |
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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You are correct sir. When the Bostoners and upstate NYers strike, most of us avoid Crescent and Ste-Catherine Street nudie bars like a clam chowder stenched plague. When F1 weekend hits -- forget it -- I'm hiding up in Parc Ex and waiting for the shit storm to die down.
Lest we forget, one of my favourite clubs, L'X, closed down because a bunch of drunk Bostoners smashed all the windows there after being kicked out for drinking too much. |
Seriously. And this is not just a Montreal view - most guys I know or meet from Boston are quite proud of the hell they used to raise in Montreal, hockey related or not. I think many Boston fans (at the least the ones from Boston) would be very angry to hear someone implying that they are more respectable than the Montreal fans! _________________
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Lillith Forum Witch

Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 421 Location: Second Star to the Right  |
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Aaaahhh, yes..the Original Six. I was not 'born' in a hockey environment. I came to Michigan more than 20 years ago and was told by my new friends that if I didn't learn the game of hockey, they would ship me back to California in a box.
And learn hockey, I did. I not only learned about the game but learned the history (my friends kept giving me books). I was in Michigan about 3 months when a person at work mentioned Gordie Howe.....I made the mistake of saying"Who?". My collegue, Brian said, "I'll forgive you this once because you are from California. But if you ever do that again, I'll shoot you in the head."
BTW, he gave me my first book in the history of the NHL.
Now, maybe I'm not worthy, but I am PROUD that "my team" is one of the Original Six. I venture to say that most, if not all, of the fans today were not alive when these 6 teams slugged it out, year after year. They never saw Guy LeFleur play..they never saw Terry Sawchuck or Gordie Howe.
So, when did this "new" rivalry start? Possibly because the 'youngsters' were taught by their families. If one grows up in a hockey environment, one is going to learn the history. But there hasn't been a 'current' rivalry for quite a few years. So, what is it?
Any team, anywhere, can and does have devoted fans. That devotion does not always lead to violence. So why now? I'm afraid that all this recent violence is due more to the current generation of fans than to any hockey rivalry.
It is not "Montreal" fans or "Boston" fans. What this is, is the total lack of respect that some "young" people have for any other human being. I give you Columbine and Virginia State as examples. All these people need is an excuse to do violence. This is a very sad state, but it is the world we live in.
So all your arguments about Montreal or Boston are really irrevelent.
My Opinion Only
Lil _________________ No one can make you feel inferior without your permission. |
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razzmatazz Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1654 Location: Burnaby, B.C.  |
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Seriously, Razz, you lose what little credibility you have left when you call Boston "our city."  |
"Ours" in the Bruin fan sense, as in we were talking about hockey, about Bruins fans kicking the shit out of a Canadiens fan....
You really can be gullible Av... |
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saskhab '03-'04 Goalie Profiles Coming Soon!

Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 3417 Location: Saskatoon!  |
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Seriously, Razz, you lose what little credibility you have left when you call Boston "our city."  |
"Ours" in the Bruin fan sense, as in we were talking about hockey, about Bruins fans attempting to murder a Canadiens fan....
You really can be gullible Av... |
Fixed. _________________ "Oh my God. There she is. Lovely Sally Slater. I should speak to her. But what the hell can I say? Anything that doesn't mention that I masturbate over her memory is probably a good idea."
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hipcheck Wears red stockings

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 539 Location: The Box  |
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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It is not "Montreal" fans or "Boston" fans. What this is, is the total lack of respect that some "young" people have for any other human being. I give you Columbine and Virginia State as examples. All these people need is an excuse to do violence. This is a very sad state, but it is the world we live in.
So all your arguments about Montreal or Boston are really irrevelent.
My Opinion Only
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Thank you Lil, well put
( I also liked the comment about "I'll shoot you in the head" ) _________________ I'm a Bruins fan - don't try to confuse me with the facts |
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saskhab '03-'04 Goalie Profiles Coming Soon!

Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 3417 Location: Saskatoon!  |
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Well, proving that Boston fans aren't alone in retarded outside the rink behavior:
http://www.habsinsideout.com/boone/7309
Man, I don't get smashing and burning things when you win. I do that when I lose. _________________ "Oh my God. There she is. Lovely Sally Slater. I should speak to her. But what the hell can I say? Anything that doesn't mention that I masturbate over her memory is probably a good idea."
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razzmatazz Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1654 Location: Burnaby, B.C.  |
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: |
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Shows how absolutely thrilled and relieved you were to beat us  |
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E.L.3000 Big in Japan

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1575 Location: MTL Police: stay out ma bizness  |
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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"Lack of respect" is definitely how I would describe a small, segmented population of people who caused significant damage last night in Montreal.
It was a mix of gang members looking to improve their local rep, jerks who had planned to set cop cars on fire, and a few drunkards (likely McGill students) who liked the idea of smashing things up.
Truth is right after the game, I was soaking in glorious experience. Imagine everyone congregating in the streets, giving each other hugs, high-fives. Total strangers were smiling at each other. Montrealers of every race, religion, age and language celebrating what should have been, and frankly remains in my eye, a reason to be proud of our city.
It was later on, after most of the normal people had left, around 1:00 AM, when the vultures came out to take advantage of the situation. It wasn't someone like me who torched a cop car or smashed a window, and in fact a lot of us tried to stop these psychos who seemed to emerge from the shadows with the idea of causing trouble.
I don't expect this to happen again, at least not until we win the Cup.  _________________ John McCain is fit as a fiddle… Is 71 the new 30?” - Fox News' Rich Lowry
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skinnem Poster Girl for OTP

Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 258 Location: Toronto  |
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Lil, well put
( I also liked the comment about "I'll shoot you in the head" ) |
I agree with you both. It could happen in any city and with any sporting event. I know it's not just hockey playoff madness. Look at Boston after their World Series win, and the rioting after the Super Bowl games.
It happens everywhere - and Canadians are not exempt. Look at Vancouver during their last play-off run - weren't those riots also a disgusting display of how a few people ruin it for everyone by letting things get completely out of hand?
And as for Razz, he was not personally attacking anyone here on the forum - he was just making broad accusations/generalizations that were so obviously meant to provoke. It didn't have to become a personal gang-up and attack on him.
If you kids can't play nicely, I will stop this car right now and turn around and smack the both of you!
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razzmatazz Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1654 Location: Burnaby, B.C.  |
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Farang Chaser, Wearer of Skirts
Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 493
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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It was later on, after most of the normal people had left, around 1:00 AM, when the vultures came out to take advantage of the situation. It wasn't someone like me who torched a cop car or smashed a window, and in fact a lot of us tried to stop these psychos who seemed to emerge from the shadows with the idea of causing trouble. |
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US679 Part Deux An improvement over the US678 prototype

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 529 Location: Milton, Ontario  |
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: |
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It was later on, after most of the normal people had left, around 1:00 AM, when the vultures came out to take advantage of the situation. It wasn't someone like me who torched a cop car or smashed a window, and in fact a lot of us tried to stop these psychos who seemed to emerge from the shadows with the idea of causing trouble.
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My brother was at game 7 ( He still lives in Mtl) and he too was trying to stop these morons and helping the police when he could. It's really pissing me off how a couple of these idiots, who aren't even hockey fans are tarnishing a city's reputation.
As EL mentioned, and from what my Brother told me last night, a lot of people were trying to stop these idiots. Nice to hear. _________________
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Jyrki21 Rebel Sell + Moneyball = Life

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1856 Location: Ottawa, ON  |
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: |
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I'm locking this thread. But before I do, I just want to point out:
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Coming to the rink for Game 3, they almost couldn't get through
Again, a contingent of Canadien's fans was blocking the road, running around, singing and waving Canadian flags... |
These must have been agents provocateurs, because only out-of-province Hab fans (like Sask) would ever wave Canadian flags.
(OK, they may have been anglo-Montrealers, but then they probably do live in Toronto or Vancouver anyway). _________________
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