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freakydave
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Tambellini will not be fired & they will be hiring an information manager to deal with cba issue & the league freeing Tambellini to focus on HKY operations.That's the plan for now.
I am liking this guy more than Nonis already.
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Cannots Luvah
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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great presser in that he was very clear in his points
when asked about area of concerns... he was vivdly clear , he wasnt happy with scouting , player developement and player selection. He really went after the scouting and developement. He will clean house in those departments.
Larschied asked him how close are the Canucks in becoming a contending team.... Gillis' quote " not very close"...
Along with Tamby he was very complimentary to AV .. he defended AV saying you can only coach with what your given. He made that point several times. Sounds like he's gonna have a Burke like structure , he's gonna bring in an assit GM to be in charge of CBA stuff and Tamby might be kept for hockey stuff.
he kind of let the cat out of the bag when asked when all this happened , he was apporached on day 1 , he said clearly 5 days to decide and here we are today.
Gillis will not be trading Luongo anytime soon... he's actually friends with the guy. He kept talking about Luongo being the man still.
to my delight no vote of confidence for the cycling twins!! *fingers crossed*
he said alot.. I cant remember everything... great presser. I feel much better than 1 week ago. |
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Cannots Luvah
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he described the Canucks assets as being "lean" at times , he felt there was no push from below.
when asked about Naslund he said the obvious ,diplomatically he said he has to make a decision that best suits the team. 1 week ago he was asking for 5-6M from Nonis claiming he's still a star.. today he's offering 2M , he's clearly on the decline! lol
I just cant get over how open and honest he was about his disatisfaction with the Canucks scouting , drafting , and developement. He was asked bout Manitoba , he kept no comment though he said he has a good idea what he thinks of their assets in Manitoba but wants to interview them.
oh.. 5 year deal. no money terms released. |
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the New Cunning Linguist
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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What exactly did he say about the Sedins?
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Cannots Luvah
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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nothing lol.. just my own wishful thinking. He talked about everybody else , never mentioned the Sedins as key players , he was asked about what he likes and key players , no mention of the cycling twins .. he was happy with goaltending , likes the D.. had nothing good to say about the forwards. Im taking that as a plane ticket for the cycling twins outta town  . Plus I think ... change that , I know he willl change the identity of the team.. * fingers crossed * |
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Cannots Luvah
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Tom Larschied who wears his heart on his sleeve and calls it like it is just said he feels more confident with the team's direction than he has in a long time.
Personally Im not thriving with confidence like Tommy but I feel much better than last week and Im very anxious , optimistic and excited to see Gillis get to work. |
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the New Cunning Linguist
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Here are some notes from others on cc.
| mattola from cc wrote: |
Francesco Aqulinni - FA
Mike Gillis - MG
Chris Zimmerman - CZ
FA opening remarks
- Important day for team and fans
- introduces new GM Mike Gillis
- very excited about mike being GM and says he has 30 years of experience in the NHL
- knowledge of cap, cba, and has the leadership needed to bring canucks into contention
- this is a much better opening speech than last weeks
- role of ownership is to higher good management and allow them to do their job
- we believe gillis is right guy. repeats 30 years of experience comment, he understand player dynamics
- not going to discuss how they hired him. they started process of GM hunt at end of season
- mike never a GM but has strengths in assessing players and talents in the league
- not going to discuss who they talked to outside Mike Gillis
- confident in Mike Gillis
MG and CZ remarks
MG - going to evaluate whole team before making decisions what to tackle first
MG - clean slate going forward
MG - areas of concern is scouting and player development
MG - fully intends to take current scouting staff forward. will be involved in process for upcoming draft
MG - havent made and decisions on current staff and they will be evaluated on performance. committed to good loyal people
MG - coaches handle the assets they are given. assets in vancouver were lean. no push from lower leagues to make roster work harder.
MG - doesn't think the past scouting was good enough to make this team a contender from 1997 to 2003. 9 players of 66 drat picks played in NHL for this team
MG - end of day results matter.
MG - clearly biggest assets is in goal and defense. doesn't blame coach for results. wants grit, character speed.
MG - no formal evaluate on coaching staff with what they had to work with
MG - will talk with AV and philosophy of team and what he wants to coach and what players he wants. he will then make the call if they are on the same page (sounds like their next interview determines AV fate)
MG - impressed with AV integrity and make players play hard. thought AV did a good job last year.
MG - Talked to Naslund about his tenure with Canucks. MG gave a very generic answer about Markus. He said if it makes sense to have MN in Vancouver he will be there. if it doesn't make sense then MN wont be there. MN is not decided about his future.
MG - Meeting with Tamby later today. says Tamby assistant GM. MG will bring in someone to handle the cap legality so he can focus on players (I liked this comment)
MG - Every person in the organization will be treated fairly and evaluated fairly. very aware of history of scouting
MG - relationships in place with GM over his years in the game. as with everything there is conflict and friendships. trading players is most difficult decision and hardest thing to do next to selecting a coach
MG - business decisions are business decisions (in regards to transforming from agent to GM and assessing players financial worth)
MG - question from Tommy Larcheid- how are you going to be different from other GMS - MG sees this as a opportunity where he HAS to win. HAS to have results. only thing on his mind. FA have given him a long term contract (interesting comment). wants to bring a different ideal to drafting. thinks he can bring good players from UFA market
MG -how close is this team to winning the cup - difficult question to answer. he doesn't think that the team is close to winning the cup. thinks there is a good foundation. thinks its Luongo. thinks the team needs to be faster and score more gritty goals.
MG - had no relationship prior to FA family
MG - (he reminds me of Brian Burke in the way he talks a little)
CZ - relationship with fans not taken for granted. believes MG will make this a better team and strengthen organization. MG is intense, competitive, is prepared always at a high level.
MG - if you are going to have a winning team you have to have players make sacrifices in a cap system. money has to be distributed effectively. lawyers often act for different side in different circumstances. doesnt think their will be conflict from being a agent to GM with current players
MG - was offered job and took 5 days to decided to take job.
MG - cant comment on first impression of Manitoba and those assets. wants to meet with them first
they are now doing a photo op and will work in scrums |
| levelheaded from cc wrote: |
Aquillini: Did a better job, but avoided the important questions about the hiring process. Felt the team needed a change in leadership after a team review at the end of the year.
Gillis:
-Probably will stick with scouting staff, will add own opinions to drafting process but seems intent on sticking with Delorme and co.
-When asked if he'd consider firing AV his answer was "absolutely" but said that he hasn't made any concrete decisions yet.
-Will bring a "new and distinct" idea to the team. AKA change of system probably
-Is willing to move players if he feels they aren't playing up to standard
-Coaches coach what is given to them.
-Wants 'grit, character, speed' on the team, but can't get that until he aquiries it.
-Will start talking team philosophy with AV as soon as possible, and will decide then whether to keep him or not.
-He has full support from Aquaman to do whatever he wants to improve the team. Claims he was never given that opportunity when he was offered any other GM positions
-Calls Luongo 'best goalie in the business,' doesn't seem to have any intention of trading him (which I like).
-On Naslund: was committed to Markus as his agent, but now as the GM he is committed to the Canucks. If Vancouver isn't the perfect fit for Naslund and the team then he won't be here. Naslund has not decided on his future.
-Will bring in someone to deal with the cap, meeting with Tambellini today. Plans to retain Steve Tambellini apparently (I didn't get that impression at first).
-skirted the leadership issue.
-will be hirings/firings among people in the organization
-uses the word asset even more than Nonis
-Has been involved with players being traded in the past. Sees it as the hardest thing besides hiring the coach facing him. Doesn't anticipate any problems with any players or general managers.
-Realizes that being on the other side of the table is difficult, will make tough business decisions if possible.
-Is actively seeking replacements for players he represented (at least that's what I think he said, I wasn't really paying attention).
-Skirted the question from Larscheid about what he intends to do differently from previous GMs.
-Hopes to be able to attract players because he knows what they want. Calls his experience with players his biggest asset he brings.
-Does NOT feel the team is close to winning the cup at this pont. Foundation is there in Luongo, but thinks the team needs to be faster, grittier and more competetive. Solid defence and goaltending, but offence needs to be addressed.
-Hasn't had time to fully asses the leadership situation on the team.
-Didn't have any communication with the Aqulinis until the job opening came up
-Agrees that he's in a tough spot with the Naslund situation and having to switch sides on salary so quickly. Players have to make sacrifices if they want to be on a winning team.
-Won't comment on players and personnel in Manitoba. Needs to meet with them and know them before he can comment, has some pre-conceived ideas but wants to be sure.
Zimmerman:
-Continues to spew bullshit. Says Gillis has a great deal of intensity, wants to compete blah blah blah. Anything he says could apply to any person or player in hockey.
Overall impressions:
Gillis impressed me quite a bit. He was forward and willing to answer questions. He skirted some questions, but was honest as much as possible. Blew me away with his public speaking ability (in the Burke mold in that regard). Definitely impressed me and removed a lot of my doubts about him.
Zimmerman continues to be a bumbling fool.
I'm sure Mattola will add more. |
levelheaded seemed to hear something different about the scouting staff - I agree, however, that it needs a major overhaul. Chouinard, Park, Isbister,... 
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Cannots Luvah
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| I thnk what Gillis meant is he's gonna take the current staff into the draft caz he has no choice but no gaurantees after draft day. I think he will make changes in the scouting. |
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the New Cunning Linguist
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Cannots Luvah wrote: |
| Personally Im not thriving with confidence like Tommy but I feel much better than last week and Im very anxious , optimistic and excited to see Gillis get to work. |
Well, given where this team was (in limbo) a week ago after DN got canned and no successor was named, I think presenting a strong, confident GM in Gillis helps assuage those doubts - don't forget, this city has seen more than its share of terrible GMs and the situation was ripe for a complete meltdown starting at the front office.
I felt a lot better after reading that ESPN excerpt from Money Players, so I share your optimism - I think Gillis will clean house, and I think it will start with the scouting staff. I'm not surprised that he came across as confident and poised; the consensus at cc seems to be he was very, very good, while Aquilini continues to be a concern.
Personally, I think he'll give AV a short leash - he'll give him some talented players (one thing I thought was to Gillis' advantage is that he is well-liked and respected by players), and perhaps swing a trade or two for key pieces. Likewise for Tamby (who I agree should just follow BB to Toronto if given a chance) who I'm guessing is on borrowed time, unless GMMG has a better candidate in mind already.
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Bosc Ulrich II
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Cannots Luvah wrote: |
| Im taking that as a plane ticket for the cycling twins outta town |
Is there something in their contract that they'd have to stay with the Nucks or be dealt to the same team? Because whenever anyone talks about them, they're always talked about as a pair. You could always trade one of them...
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the New Cunning Linguist
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Bosc Ulrich II wrote: |
| Cannots Luvah wrote: |
| Im taking that as a plane ticket for the cycling twins outta town |
Is there something in their contract that they'd have to be dealt to the same team? Because whenever anyone talks about them, they're always talked about as a pair. You could always trade one of them. Not likely that when they come asking for 7 mil a season, a team will be able to take on both. |
I can't imagine that there would be, plus why would a GM put that in there knowing it ties his hands almost as badly as an NTC? (they don't have one as far as I know)
Well, at least we know that BB likes them as a tandem... 
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Bosc Ulrich II
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| the New Cunning Linguist wrote: |
| Bosc Ulrich II wrote: |
| Cannots Luvah wrote: |
| Im taking that as a plane ticket for the cycling twins outta town |
Is there something in their contract that they'd have to be dealt to the same team? Because whenever anyone talks about them, they're always talked about as a pair. You could always trade one of them. Not likely that when they come asking for 7 mil a season, a team will be able to take on both. |
We know that BB likes them as a tandem... |
Is whatever team that he's GMing have 14 million in cap space when they're both asking for 7 mil a season?
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Cannots Luvah
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| the New Cunning Linguist wrote: |
Personally, I think he'll give AV a short leash - he'll give him some talented players (one thing I thought was to Gillis' advantage is that he is well-liked and respected by players), and perhaps swing a trade or two for key pieces. Likewise for Tamby (who I agree should just follow BB to Toronto if given a chance) who I'm guessing is on borrowed time, unless GMMG has a better candidate in mind already. |
yeah , on one hand he was very securing of Tamby and AV but yet emphasized how the whole organization wil be re-evaluated with a clean slate. I agree that I wouldnt bet the farm that AV and Tamby are still here.
Along with the scouting , its too short notice for Gillis to clean house now with the draft and UFA a couple months away. |
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Cannots Luvah
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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does anybody else see the resemblence?..maybe its just me...
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the New Cunning Linguist
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Cannots Luvah wrote: |
| Along with the scouting , its too short notice for Gillis to clean house now with the draft and UFA a couple months away. |
Makes perfect sense.
I think he'll give the players under contract a chance to vent if needed about AV. He'll get some better talent than AV has had these last two years, and just as we have said about DN before he got axed, this is AV's make or break year, maybe less if the team stumbles out of the gate. In my mind, unless there is a more brilliant coach out there that is interested and available, then he'll give AV every chance to improve the on-ice product with better skill. I think Tamby is well-respected throughout the league and can ease this team and front office staff through this transition period, but I think the writing really is on the wall. Dobie will find himself an Assistant GM who will slowly take over hockey operations and if there's another opening elsewhere, I would guess that Tamby would (and should) bolt.
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Cannots Luvah
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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I just heard Gillis on the Sedins... wow , my wishes are coming true I thnk!!!!!
he said he doenst know if they're players you can build around , he's gonna wanna talk to the coaching staff if these are the players they move forward with...
keeping that with his wants of a grittier , faster , tougher team .. and no compliments ot any forwards... I think the cycling twins are goners. Also keep in mind he already gave Luongo and the D a vote of confidence ... |
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the New Cunning Linguist
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Cannots Luvah wrote: |
I just heard Gillis on the Sedins... wow , my wishes are coming true I thnk!!!!!
he said he doenst know if they're players you can build around , he's gonna wanna talk to the coaching staff if these are the players they move forward with...
keeping that with his wants of a grittier , faster , tougher team .. and no compliments ot any forwards... I think the cycling twins are goners. Also keep in mind he already gave Luongo and the D a vote of confidence ... |
Wow... So we shouldn't be surprised if he does a complete overhaul of the forwards...
http://nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=VAN
I could imagine he'll want to keep Kesler and Burrows, since they are on the cheap and perhaps two of their fastest, grittiest players. Pyatt and Cowan are on the bubble - not gritty enough and too slow of foot. Shannon might be gone too, despite his speed. Pettinger? Who knows... But among that forward group, the Sedins make the most sense to move - it'll be interesting to see what kind of return he gets for them...
I think we're seeing him 'create the market' for the twins, and really, anyone of the their forwards... The Sedins are perhaps the most marketable since they are under contract for another year and are easily 70+ point players each... By saying this publicly, he's letting other GMs know that they are on the market... Nice...
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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yeah , one of Gilliis critiques was the "competitiveness of the forwards"..again , he didnt critique the D or G , he complimented them. He's gonna make his splash up front based on everything said and not said. Theres just no vote of confidence to the Sedins or any forward right now.
Im with Freaky on Gillis , Im liking Gillis more and more lol |
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Tuzer
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I for 1 am hoping that Gillis at least trys to sign the Sedins to an extension,IMO if we can get them for a discount,Say 4.5 each than that leaves plenty of cap space to go after a gamebreaker or two,This imo would give us two legitimate scoring lines.While I agree with some here that the Sedins have underperformed,I strongly disagree that they should be cut loose.The Sedins have been the only offence that we have had for the last 2-3 years,When other teams came to play the Canucks their main focus was always to shut down the twins,And basically once they did that they had the game won.My thinking is now that we have the capspace to add another offensive line than why should we turn around and dump the offence that we already have,Especially when we already know how hard that said offence is to come by. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Cannots Luvah wrote: |
great presser in that he was very clear in his points
when asked about area of concerns... he was vivdly clear , he wasnt happy with scouting , player developement and player selection. He really went after the scouting and developement. He will clean house in those departments.
Larschied asked him how close are the Canucks in becoming a contending team.... Gillis' quote " not very close"...
Along with Tamby he was very complimentary to AV .. he defended AV saying you can only coach with what your given. He made that point several times. Sounds like he's gonna have a Burke like structure , he's gonna bring in an assit GM to be in charge of CBA stuff and Tamby might be kept for hockey stuff.
he kind of let the cat out of the bag when asked when all this happened , he was apporached on day 1 , he said clearly 5 days to decide and here we are today.
Gillis will not be trading Luongo anytime soon... he's actually friends with the guy. He kept talking about Luongo being the man still.
to my delight no vote of confidence for the cycling twins!! *fingers crossed*
he said alot.. I cant remember everything... great presser. I feel much better than 1 week ago. |
Nice to see Gillis and I are on exactly the same page. Guess I'm not so unfairly biased in my take on the Canucks after all... |
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