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E.L.3000
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There's talk on HF A.Kost might head for Russia this summer. He is offered 4 mi. He's a RFA. Don't know what it's worth.  |
The day the Russian League steals a player their NHL club actually wants to keep, that'll be the first time.
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Bell Centre Ghost
Haunting the Bell Centre since 2005
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| Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| deutschlander wrote: |
| There's talk on HF A.Kost might head for Russia this summer. He is offered 4 mi. He's a RFA. Don't know what it's worth. |
The day the Russian League steals a player their NHL club actually wants to keep, that'll be the first time. |
DIdn't the habs want to keep Perezhogin?
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E.L.3000
Big in Japan
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| Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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This team won't change too much this offseason. We might add another scorer (Brunnstrom or someone else). Komisarek, Plexo and AKost will all get long-term deals.
Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Kovalev
Higgins-Koivu-Kostitsyn
Latendresse-Lapierre-Grabovski
Begin-Chipchura-Kostopoulos
D'Agostini, Stewart
Markov-Komisarek
Hamrlik-O'Byrne
Boullion-Gorges
Valentenko, Brisebois
Price-Halak
Leaving by UFA: Smolinski, Ryder, Streit
Leaving by trade: Dandenault, possibly Grabovski
Leaving for Europe: possibly Grabovski, Locke, Milroy
Coming back (unlikely): Emelin, Paris Hilton, Benoit
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deutschlander
Sausage of die Post
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| deutschlander wrote: |
| There's talk on HF A.Kost might head for Russia this summer. He is offered 4 mi. He's a RFA. Don't know what it's worth. |
The day the Russian League steals a player their NHL club actually wants to keep, that'll be the first time. |
Hmm, there also is talk that two Swedish teams of the elite league want to jump to the Russian league.
Don't be too sure NA owners have the deepest pockets. Abramovich already owns the Chelsea London football club. There's so much money out there.
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E.L.3000
Big in Japan
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| Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| deutschlander wrote: |
| E.L. wrote: |
| deutschlander wrote: |
| There's talk on HF A.Kost might head for Russia this summer. He is offered 4 mi. He's a RFA. Don't know what it's worth. |
The day the Russian League steals a player their NHL club actually wants to keep, that'll be the first time. |
Hmm, there also is talk that two Swedish teams of the elite league want to jump to the Russian league.
Don't be too sure NA owners have the deepest pockets. Abramovich already owns the Chelsea London football club. There's so much money out there. |
The Russian Super League isn't the Premiership.
These owners have big pockets but the RSL is still small potatoes and these owners won't be jacking up the payrolls to 50M any time soon.
We've been hearing this for years, and the economics of the RSL will forever keep it it a lower-tier league. I know these owners don't mind losing money on a sports team, but RSL revenues are just too small and none of these guys have shown a desire to throw that much money away, even if they're all multi-billionaires. If they did, they would have given Ovechkin 20M without thinking twice.
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saskhab
'03-'04 Goalie Profiles Coming Soon!
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Andrei won't leave. The Habs corrected his medical issues, acclimatized him to North America, helped him speak English, put him on a line with Alex Kovalev, and drafted his brother to play with him as well. If the Habs have to find him a harem, they'll do it.
The only question is if Andrei will be the first young Hab signed to one of those long term deals, or if he'll get some version of the Higgins/Komi/Plexo 2 year deals from last summer.
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E.L.3000
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I'm thinking AKost might get the Afinogenov contract. Meaning 4 years/14M (3.5M cap hit).
Komisarek is not only a year away from being a UFA, but he's young too. I can't really find a precedent except for Markov, so perhaps 5 years/27.5M, perhaps a bit less since he doesn't play as many minutes as Markov and doesn't put up any points.
Plexo and Higgins are still RFA's after next season, so maybe 3.5M apiece per season.
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saskhab
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I'd give Plexo a new deal first. Higgins has some work to do.
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Jyrki21
Rebel Sell + Moneyball = Life
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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Location: Ottawa, ON
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| Andrei won't leave. The Habs corrected his medical issues, acclimatized him to North America, helped him speak English, |
Le journal de Montréal journalist: <eyes bug out> I'm on it!
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saskhab
'03-'04 Goalie Profiles Coming Soon!
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: |
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I'm thinking AKost might get the Afinogenov contract. Meaning 4 years/14M (3.5M cap hit).
Komisarek is not only a year away from being a UFA, but he's young too. I can't really find a precedent except for Markov, so perhaps 5 years/27.5M, perhaps a bit less since he doesn't play as many minutes as Markov and doesn't put up any points.
Plexo and Higgins are still RFA's after next season, so maybe 3.5M apiece per season. |
Schultz isn't too far off for a precedent for Komi, and Regehr isn't either. That'd put him under that range, but the market could continue to rise.
To me, here are the questions to be answered for this offseason:
1. What kind of commitment are we willing to give our RFA's? AK being the most prominent, but Grabo and Halak might both want out. I'd like 'em both back, actually, and think Grabo could grab a permanent spot next year if both he and the coach can get on the same page for what's expected of him.
2. Should we commit term and decent money Streit, or any UFA of non-impact significance? I'm one of the few people who thinks Streit is better at what he's been doing all his life, playing D, then what his recent hobby of a forward playing the point on the PP. I still think we need a puckmover back there, but don't know if an in house solution is ready for the jump (mainly Carle and possibly Subban; McDonagh isn't on the radar yet). As for the open market, there are some solutions that could help us, and fit the age group of the core. It's just a matter of evaluation and how much we're willing to commit.
3. Is ANYONE ready to make the jump from Hamilton? We saw some good things from Chips and Stewart this year, but those will be minor impacts for next year at best. Grabovski and O'Byrne, to me, or the only guys that could contribute significantly more than what they did this year as soon as next season. Oh yeah, and Guillaume, and I think we all believe Sergei can join that 50+ point group next season.
4. Is there a potential impact addition to be made? The most cost effective ones I could think of would be older, potential Hall of Fame bound vets looking at Montreal as having a chance at the Cup and desiring that. I can think of 3 or maybe 4 of these guys out there. If it's a realistic possibility, it might be worth exploring. The other options would likely be available via trade, or require a significant investment (term + money) via UFA. The 3rd option isn't very attractive to me.
5. What can be done to rebuild/stock Hamilton? A massive turnover has taken place down there since the Calder Cup win and soon that team will be down all their goalies, and most of the vets will be gone, save Locke. The team has a head start with the signings of Maxwell, Trotter, and Wyman. Paccioretty could be next, and likely White will be inked soon. The team needs a new goalie. These may seem like minor moves, but they can have a bigger impact than realized. Next year, that team should be stronger.
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E.L.3000
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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The Schultz deal (~3.6M cap hit) for Komisarek would be sweet.
In a perfect world, bringing Striet back to kick start the PP and play 3rd liner/swingman would be fine, but with a cap to contend with and only two players locked up long-term, he's a luxury we probably can't afford.
Another team is going to offer Streit 3M a season to play 20 minutes on defence, and like Souray will probably disappoint, but he should take the offer.
I think the vet route makes sense. This time a Shanahan-type shouldn't be afraid to come here, because I think we proved we're a step away from seriously contending. How about Selanne? Nolan? Yelle? Peca? Forsberg? Rolston? Demitra? Straka? JR? Sundin? Naslund? Fedorov? We'll be in a position to make a lucrative short-term deal. I don't see us spending on a marquee guy until we lock up our core.
Halak isn't in a position to get a better offer elsewhere. He finally has a guaranteed NHL job. He knows he'll get 15-20 games to prove to another team he can be a number one. Going back to Europe won't help his cause.
Chips is up permanent with the big club. Stewart will get some major air miles next season.
Grabbo might bolt, I could see him getting a good deal in Russia. If we can offer a full-time gig here with the big club I think he'll stay. He knows if he gets a shift playing with the Kosts, he could have a real NHL future.
Hamilton will be flush with new guys next year. Few of them will be ready except for Carle, who I think is close. Valentenko is ready physically, and he'll have the chance to challenge for the no. 7 d spot.
Breezer will likely be offered a role within the team, but I think they'll encourage him to retire.
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saskhab
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Yeah, the only way I see Breezy back is if both Streit and Dandenault or gone, which is very possible, but both those things have to unfold for Breezy to have a shot. If Dandy can't be moved (I'm not sure he'll find a home, but hopefully he can), he'll be the swingman next year moreso than he has been for us so far, but more the swingman that's just happy to play. He might be both our 13th forward and 7th d-man, and like this year, if the team is completely healthy, in the press box.
I hope Grabovski sees he has a chance here. He was a successful RSL player before he came here, and he's paid his dues in the minors. He could easily crack a permanent roster spot and flourish. And if it doesn't happen next year, feel free to make some coin in the RSL.
Halak's agent is saying stuff about how he has to play. I don't think the plan for Price is to play him 65-70 games next year, but we'll see. Price said he felt a little worn out yesterday, but he'd also had such a long season the year before. Halak could easily play 25-30 games next year and that should be good for his first full NHL season.
You left Jagr off the vet list, don't know if that was on purpose.
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saskhab
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http://www.habsinsideout.com/boone/8082
Some early print postings of Gainey and Carbo's post-mortem presser. Not a lot to say as far as moving forward, though he does think the team could use some help at forward. Says the team is set in goal and on D for now and the forseeable future. I guess you can read into that and say "goodbye Streit" if you want to.
I'll listen to the presser on my own sometime. Last year's comments really reassured me. This year, I don't think there's a lot to say. The team came together in a real positive way. Kovalev ceased to be a hockey player and became a Montreal Canadien. The end came too early, but the team will have to live and learn from that. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with this team, there's just some improvements that can be made by individual players to benefit the team more.
It's not a matter of personnel.
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saskhab
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The Hamilton rebuild continues as Lahti, Engelhardt, and Ferland have all signed contracts with European clubs for next season. The Savard era prospects have been weeded out of the organization this year... Ferland is a symbol of that, and Milroy, Archer, and Cote are likely next. The good has been retained (except for Perezhogin who was unfortunately lost, and Korneev who has never shown interest in coming over), and the bad is gone. All of the prospects in Hamilton are Gainey's boys going forward.
I did some quick checking of our prospects and Yannic Weber will almost certainly turn pro this off-season. He's 20 this fall, and as a 20 year old European, is very unlikely to play in the OHL next year. The Memorial Cup, if he's healthy enough to play (he got injured in the OHL Final), will be his junior swan song. So add him to Hamilton's projected roster for next year.
I don't know if either of Valentenko or Carle will be kept with the big club next year, but it would make some sense for one to see part-time duty like O'Byrne did this past year.
Paccioretty is the only other prospect I see turning pro this year, though there's a small chance they'd bring Fisher in. And you never know with Emelin... he'd be taylor made for the 7th d-man part-time duty spot, but I don't know if he can get out of his contract. Rumor has it he hates his current situation in Russia.
We'll need another goalie as well.
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E.L.3000
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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If Sundin isn't signed by Toronto before July 1st, I'd wouldn't doubt for a second Gainey offers him an irresistible two-year contract.
I am very much for that move.
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Bell Centre Ghost
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Sundin would be a good/great fit.
Here's an article about our potential draft pick this year - Nicolas Deschamps
http://mckeenshockey.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=774723
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Stinky
Woman of Color of the Post
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I heart sundin.
If he gets to be a hab, i'm getting a jersey and wearing it everywhere in toronto.
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