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Bosc Ulrich II
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saskhab
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Looks like Ron Wilson won't be unemployed for long!
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Jyrki21
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Maurice
It seems that, much like Francesco Aquilini, MLSE does not understand zero-sum economics.
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Hounsy
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Given the ability of the team to really turn it on just a hair too late two seasons in a row makes me think the coach is also part of the problem.
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E.L.3000
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The new GM needs to bring in his own guy anyways. May as well give Maurice a chance to get first dibs at another job.
An oddly classy move on the Leafs part.
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Grgecko
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Maurice seems like a good coach, and I'm sure if given a good squad could have done alot more.
But I have to agree with Hounsy, the team has had motivation issues for his entire reign, and the coach does bear atleast some responsibility for that.
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Alabama Man
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Cool man!  I didn't particularly like Maurice all that much as a coach as the Leafs played a dry, relatively boring brand of hockey. I can't honestly say there were many contests that had me jumping off the seat that he coached.
New squad of troops, they oughta bring Pat Quinn back into the mix. He's really the best avail. coach out there anyway!
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MrBumpnGrind
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hmm wonder who Dave Nonis will bring in as coash?
Quenville in Colorado? he hasn't resigned yet? Pat Burns? Marc Crawford should be getting the axe soon? Quinn? |
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Jyrki21
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hmm wonder who Dave Nonis will bring in as coash?
Quenville in Colorado? he hasn't resigned yet? Pat Burns? Marc Crawford should be getting the axe soon? Quinn? |
OK, I thought you were just kidding around, but who knew there was some truth! 
The hockey gods do hate Vancouver's guts, that much we know. How better to show it than having Nonis lead the Leafs to a Cup... man...
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MrBumpnGrind
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didn't need tsn to point that out to know it was coming.
im just curious to know why they needed the nuckers permission to speak to him |
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Av-merican
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Well it's not like Nonis could overspend on defense in T.O., it's already been done!
Nonis would be perfect though, just hire him, have him struggle to make a team barely able to fit under the cap competitive, and then fire him once he frees up salary!
Quenneville, in all seriousness though, would be a great choice. He's just the right guy to make a team of underachievers work somehow (unless you want the team to tank for Tavares). And he's no stranger to goalie controversies.
Speaking of Q, are free agent coaches under the same July 1st rule as players? |
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saskhab
'03-'04 Goalie Profiles Coming Soon!
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It cannot be emphasized enough... the Leafs have NOT underachieved the past 3 years. They are what they are: a non-playoff team.
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US679 Part Deux
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The hockey gods do hate Vancouver's guts, that much we know. How better to show it than having Nonis lead the Leafs to a Cup... man... |
You're joking, right?
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saskhab
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Don't worry, US679, the Leafs will win only because of a series of bounces and good luck, not because they're any good. At least that's Jyrki's latest theory on winning.
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US679 Part Deux
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| Don't worry, US679, the Leafs will win only because of a series of bounces and good luck, not because they're any good. At least that's Jyrki's latest theory on winning. |
In all seriousness, I get J21's point, but I think after the 1st round and possibly the 2nd round that goes out the window and yes I understand in a cap system teams are closer matched than a non cap, but look at the NBA in a capped system there are some good teams and lousy teams. There does not seem to be the parody of the NHL
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Hounsy
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NBA cap not near as tight top to bottom as NHL due to the Luxury tax system they have.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm
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Bosc Ulrich II
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Hounsy
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I checked with my employer and all the Leafs have to do is ask and they will be given permission to talk with me.
~Going to go get the stats from my kick ass fantasy seasons this year and sit by the phone awaiting a call.~
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Jyrki21
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| US679 Part Deux wrote: |
| You're joking, right? |
Note the italics -- those bastards will stop at nothing to stick it to us (and Razz, of course).
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| Don't worry, US679, the Leafs will win only because of a series of bounces and good luck, not because they're any good. At least that's Jyrki's latest theory on winning. |
It's not my "latest theory," nor is it mine -- it's simple math.
4-7 games = small sample size
Small sample size = greater impact of randomness
This has always been true, but is even truer with a cap (parity means more traditional factors are saw-offs) and with expansion (proportionately fewer teams make the playoffs, so they all tend to be pretty good).
My other point -- that not every good team who doesn't win the Cup can be said to have choked or even underachieved -- is also just a point of logic.
US679 -- one other reason why the NBA has less parity (in addition to the one mentioned by Hounsy) is that on each team, fewer players play more minutes than on a hockey team. So the impact of any single player is proportionately greater, in many cases twice as great.
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