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Jyrki21
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: BC government announcement Reply with quote

I figured this is better placed here than in "other sports," as really only Vancouverites will care. Speculation that the province will kick in some money to convert BC Place to a retractable, and ideally get the Whitecaps into MLS.

CKNW wrote:
New roof for BC Place may be announced tomorrow

The Premier has called a news conference for tomorrow morning and it’s believed he will talk about the government's choice for a new roof on BC Place stadium.

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Both the BC Lions and the Vancouver Whitecaps have been invited to tomorrow's news conference.

The Lions say they have no idea what it's about.

Last week the Whitecaps told CKNW they’d consider playing in BC Place with a new retractable roof if it would improve their chances of landing a Major League Soccer franchise.

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It is also possible the Premier will announce a project to build a retractable roof, but that would happen after the Olympic Games are complete.

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whitecaps still want their dream venue on the waterfront down at the docks. This is temporary only, but at least it frees up Swangard for community use Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great news. Cant wait to see the artist's layout. Very suprised to hear that 2010 isnt the target date considering I thought that was the whole point. I heard the stadium in Berlin is the blueprint? I hope they give it a complete reno job , new seats , get rid of some if not most of the depressing cement look , and natural grass? nothing to do with the renovation but in general improve security at BC Lions games.. much better than 10 years ago but still too many drunken retards coming in from the biggest trailer park in the world ...Surrey! (Im kiDDIN!!!!... no Im not...I joke my Surrey friends)

I cant believe Swaangard has been home to a minor pro team for 20 years. Its a venue for amatuer sport , its seriously something you would find at a UBC or SFu or a big high school. Beautiful scenic location at Central Park but in terms of practicality its brutal.. the grand stands suck , parking sucks , concessions suck , plumbing sucks , the locker rooms suck , the sight lines suck (its for track and field not soccer/football) , Skytrain is at the opposite end of the park so safety sucks ( its not NY Central Park but I wouldnt let my 10 yr old niece walk through there after a game with her friends alone) , the surrounding fencing is so cheap you can see through it( im serious) , plus its in Burnaby right on the border , literally 100 feet from being on the cool side of town ( East Van),...etc

leave it for amatuer sports.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I've always been kind of surprised at how Swangard remains the norm for soccer. What was built in Empire Stadium's stead? (Ah, apparently, ironically, a soccer field!) Was there actually a need to tear it down?

I agree about the sightlines... I've only been to one 86ers game (as they then were), but I remember that as a player moved to the other side of the field from us, he gradually disappeared because of the slight incline, on either side of center. Laughing

Apparently Thunderbird Stadium can be expanded to hold more than Swangard does now. Is that any better?
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I may share a quick sentimental story.. its not even my memory. My family when they moved here from Brandon Manitoba in the late 60s , lived next to the PNE grounds , my sister tells a great story of sitting by her window and listening to the Stones and Beatles play live at Empire Stadium frmo her bedroom window

I love that era of pro sports in vancouver(70s) despite being too young to rememebr or appreciate anything. Everything was in the suburbs of east Van on a fair ground with rides and cotton candy ... the Canucks , Leos and Caps plus the Forum(home of the WHL Canucks) and Agridome(eventual home of the high school backetball tournament) were also located on the same property and still standing .. great sports area and great atmosphere in the summer , going to a Leos game with all the rides going and the stadium filling up with the big lights.. I have fond images in my head of that time period...awesome.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bcplacestadium.com/
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its like Razz' anus.. it stretches open and closes as it pleases!!!

the outside renovations look fantastic if they come to the artist's vision.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gonna be sweeet!
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they're adding a new art gallery to it too... cool.

they are indeed getting rid of the cement look (THANK GOD!!!!!) they are redoing everything apparently.. Im very pleased.

but it doesnt look like it will be ready for 2010.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty sweet with the scoreboard up there without a roof above it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote






Taking a page out of Montreal's Olympic Stadium more than the Skydome or Safeco style of roof... looks pretty neat, but I'll bet it will tear regularly. It still looks very covered, even when open, though. Or wait... there are conflicting pictures -- does the roof bunch up at the center, or get pulled back to the sides?

I'm glad that the exterior will be remodeled, but I hope it's a little less cheezy than the picture...

The suspended scoreboard is trippy.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jyrki21 wrote:

... looks pretty neat, but I'll bet it will tear regularly.

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Ill repeat myself....its just like Razz's anus.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep forgetting they're putting up new towers next to GM place and BC Place.. hence the new Art Gallery and other facilities too.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also interesting to note , the olympic banner/design that surrounds the top rim , is that vertical or is it part of the dome caz if its vertical , looks like they're literally raising the roof
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks cool... I just saw a History Channel show about the Coliseum in Rome, and apparently, back in the day, they had a retractable roof that looked like this; it required the Roman Navy to operate the series of pulleys and sails that effectively made the roof retractable...
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's stupid. Pour the money into helping build a dual soccer and football stadium, blow up the dome, and build a bunch of lucrative condos you can tax the shit out of on the site.

Also spend some money on the Nat damnit!!!
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no way, if they can renovate that stadium for 200 mill and not cost taxpayers and dime AND make it last another 25-30 years, im all for it. that Dome is great in the city! I think kerfoot should just give the big old fuck you to the city of vancouver and leave the stadium idea be for a few more years, their lease with BC place ends in 2016, so hes got time to let the real estate value drop

and Nat Baily is being renovated
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those curious, the renovated '20s era Waldstadion in Frankfurt has a similar design:



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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So now that it'll look like a toilet seat, will they be seeking corporate sponsorships from Kohler and American Standard?
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the New Cunning Linguist wrote:
So now that it'll look like a toilet seat, will they be seeking corporate sponsorships from Kohler and American Standard?

Well, going to see the Lions "down at the Bowl" does have a football ring to it.
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