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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alabama Man wrote:
.... In other news, Raycroft is expected to start tomorrow! Surprised

I imagine this is his chance to showcase himself for a potential back-up job elsewhere next season.

I hear St. Petersburg needs a new backup.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously, what happened to that guy? He played awesome in goal in front of a suspect D, and then fell completely apart the year after. Did opposing forwards figure him out? Did he forget how to play? Is it the porn 'stache? What gives?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe just the curse of Boston goaltenders? Particularly, Blaine Lacer, Jim Carey (and now Andrew Raycroft)?

Interesting however he wasn't placed on waivers. Clemmenson is just as good (if not better) than Raycroft ... they could have easily had him up playing backup, unless they really did want him as a 'mentor' for Justin Pogge?

I don't know ... I'm routing for the B's in the East right now anyway. I'll hop on there bandwagon for the playoffs.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Av-merican wrote:
Seriously, what happened to that guy? He played awesome in goal in front of a suspect D, and then fell completely apart the year after. Did opposing forwards figure him out? Did he forget how to play? Is it the porn 'stache? What gives?

Too slow... just not athletic enough and it seems that he doesn't have good tracking skills to help him cheat a bit to compensate. He's a big positional goalie... and he's just no Giguere. Goaltending post-lockout requires better lateral movement... especially in the East, playing behind those suspect D's and super-talented forwards.

Also, I'm sure confidence has a lot to do with it... and Toronto is not the place to resurrect a fledgling career.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kyle Wellwood done for remaining balance of the season ... opposite groin being surgically repaired to the one he had fixed last year? Sundin has apparently hung up the skates as well .... As a Leaf? Or for good?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look!

Pogge has played around 30 minutes so far in 4 playoff contests! Laughing

http://www.torontomarlies.com/team/IndividualStatistics.asp

Now that's how you develop youth for the big leagues!

What a fuckin' shame .... even there minor league system is a circus.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey look on the bright side Butch, Rask is putting up huge numbers in the Post season.

JFJ should of been allowed mulligans.

Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dale Mitchell Bitches!!!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=236759&lid=sublink02&lpos=headlines_nhl

(who is Dale Mitchell? Confused )
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Over the past three seasons with Oshawa, Mitchell has played in 195 games, collecting 183 points (87 goals, 96 assists) along with 223 penalty minutes"

Butch will love this guy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wellwood continues to raise his value:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=240471&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_nhl
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again proving, touch Kyle's double big mac and he will kick your ass.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kyle Wellwood is one of the most overrated "prospects" I've ever witnessed. If for whatever reason he manages to stay healthy, I doubt he'd put 50 points in a full season.

Hopefully Burke is a smart guy and he dumps him, Pogge, and all the other sad sack blue chippers for some draft picks. Starting over means getting rid of the false hope players too. There really is no one of value in the T.O. system.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

E.L. wrote:
Kyle Wellwood is one of the most overrated "prospects" I've ever witnessed. If for whatever reason he manages to stay healthy, I doubt he'd put 50 points in a full season.

Hopefully Burke is a smart guy and he dumps him, Pogge, and all the other sad sack blue chippers for some draft picks. Starting over means getting rid of the false hope players too. There really is no one of value in the T.O. system.


The only 5th round picks I've seen overrated as prospects were in the Bruins system Wink Dude's weak, slow, inconsistent, but has great vision, hands and passing skills. I thought that was always the scouting report on him Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There really is no one of value in the T.O. system.


There are no stars sure, but Tlusty, Stralman, Pogge, and some Russian kid coming over next year could be solid NHL'ers. Sure not a great system but there is a few pieces with some value that you can hold onto for the rebuild.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strahlman is worth a damn, but not much else. I can't say anything about that Kumelin guy. Tlusty revealed too much about his potential growth already.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

saskhab wrote:
Strahlman is worth a damn, but not much else. I can't say anything about that Kumelin guy. Tlusty revealed too much about his potential growth already.


Innuendo aside for a moment...Am I the only one that liked what he saw of Tlusty last season? The numbers where not great, but on ice I thought the potential looked really good and guys who expected to be two way guys generally need to age a little to reach the potential, more so than offensive guys.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I was looking for the offensive upside. I didn't see a great shot, be it in velocity, accuracy, or release. I didn't see great puckhandling skills... maybe I was looking for the wrong skill set. Also, maybe I wasn't watching closely enough... I got so sick of the Leafs' drama that I shut them out as much is possible when I have a roommate that inexplicably is a fan.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is five or six years younger than Plekanec.

As twenty year olds. Not saying he will be as good or better, just saying imports new to the NA games take time often.

. gms G A P +/-

Plekanec
AHL 77 19 27 46 +5

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AHL 14 7 11 18 +10
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the first season in my life I was able to watch more Wings games than Leaf games(besides the long Detroit playoff runs, that is). I don't think I watched Tlusty play a single time this season.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plexo was considered a future 3rd line center with blazing speed at 19. Maybe a Brian Rolston type was forseen as a maximum potential. Also, Plex was a 3rd liner on that Hamilton team that should've won the Calder Cup... look at how stacked that team was:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0007912003.html

Anyways, my point is, I don't see anything clear cut about Tlusty at this point. He should be a NHLer, I just don't know how good of one. He doesn't seem to have a stand out characteristic to me, so whether he ends up being Jan Bulis or Milan Michalek is a matter of debate.... a mix of injuries, and coaching I'd think as well.
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