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Bosc Ulrich II
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 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: MacLeod: Wings heavy on the blue line, Stuart to get offer |
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http://redwingscentral.com/redwingscorner/blog_item.php?itemID=tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-6006365389461736081
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| General manager Ken Holland said this morning that the Red Wings will carry eight defensemen again next season. Holland said that if unrestricted free agents Brad Stuart and Andreas Lilja both sign with Detroit, the Red Wings will have "10 NHL defensemen." That figure includes the eight that Detroit had on its roster through this season — Nicklas Lidstrom, Brian Rafalski, Niklas Kronwall, Stuart, Lilja, Brett Lebda, Chris Chelios and Derek Meech. Holland also labeled prospects Kyle Quincey and Jonathan Ericsson as NHL defensemen, then said that prospect Jakub Kindl will be an NHLer, but is "young." |
Looks like he's included Chelios. I'd expect that if a combination of two of Chelios, Lilja and Stuart are back, someone will get dealt at the draft or during the summer. Meech, Quincey and Ericsson are likely ready to play and don't have any waiver options.
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On signing top-four defenseman Stuart, Holland said that he'll make the blue-liner an offer between now and the draft in Ottawa, June 20.
"Ultimately, a determining factor has to be money," said Holland. "In most times when I announce a contract, I say that the player could have gotten more on the open market. People take less because they want to be here. ... People who like playing with good players are prepared to sacrifice financially, they're prepared to sacrifice ice time. Certainly my indications are that Stuey is prepared to make some sacrifices to come here."
"I've got to get his thoughts, he's got to get my thoughts. Are we in the same ballpark? My feeling is the minute I go out and step out of the team philosophy, we no longer have a team philosophy. We've got to come up with a new philosophy. We'd like to keep him, but he's got to buy into the Red Wing philosophy."
That, to me, sounds like something has to change before Brad Stuart signs with the Red Wings. And on the same day that Ken Holland says that he has 10 NHL defensemen and another in the wings (so to speak), I'm thinking that Stuart won't be back. Just a guess. |
MacLeod doesn't think he'll be back. I've read that the whole thing with Stuart being in Cali is that for his wife to maintain custody of her daughter from a previous marriage, she has to stay in Cali. That's a really tough situation if Stuart wants to stay in Detroit.
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If there are some circumstances like that, it seems like Detroit would have to pay full price for him, and that Stuart would take a discount only in California (or maybe nearby, like Phoenix or something).
I understand why they'd want to keep him, as Kronwall-Stuart were a phenomenal pairing, but there definitely is a hard number Detroit has to deal with here. They do have 10 d-men to deal with as they say. Lilja is the easy one to jettison, but they still have a lot of options that saying no to Stuart in the end wouldn't have to be a hard decision.
Detroit's D was doing just fine early in the year when healthy and with no Stuart.
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How good is Ericsson and is he ready for primetime now? I had never heard of him but SI wrote glowingly about him in a brief mention.
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Bosc Ulrich II
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| hammer wrote: |
| How good is Ericsson and is he ready for primetime now? I had never heard of him but SI wrote glowingly about him in a brief mention. |
Babcock loves him and thinks he's NHL ready, and that he'll be a top-4 guy in a couple of seasons. Unfortunately I didn't get to see much of him this year.
On redwingscentral.com's prospect rankings, he and Helm have moved past Howard.
Detroit gave him the standard qualifying offer, but they'll work out a new deal for him. If he's out of AHL waiver options, he'll be with Detroit to start the year for sure. Looks like he's still waiver-exempt, so we'll see if he forces the issue. It sounds like Babcock wants him on the team:
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| "We have a kid named Ericsson, and I can't believe we don't dress him. I think he's going to be a stud in the league." — Red Wings head coach Mike Babcock (May 2008, USA Today). |
I really think Detroit will be forced to move a D or two at the draft, considering that Chelios definitely says he will be back and they want to get Stuart under contract.
Check out where he was drafted.
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great info - thanks!
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