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Boyle on the move to San Jose

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Boyle on the move to San Jose Reply with quote

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242326&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

With Campbell and Redden gone I could see the Sharks taking a hard look at landing Boyle. No idea what Tbay is looking for though since their moves seem pretty erratic this summer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still think it's BS. I thought the whole Boyle signing was orchestrated by the new owners from behind the scenes anyways. Plus, he has a NMC.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well with the ludicrous contract thrown Blake's way I think this is a dead rumour.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3472843&campaign=rss&source=NHLHeadlines

This is funny:

Quote:
Lightning shopping Boyle, give agent permission to contact other teams

By Dan Boyle


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242464&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_main

Off to San Jose, with Brad Lukowich, for Matt Carle, a 1st and a 4th round pick, plus a prospect by the looks of things.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently the prospect is D Ty Wishart, San Jose's 2006 first rounder.

This is nutty. Tampa now has an absolutely horrid D, and San Jose has an old D with a ton of cash being spent on it. Something tells me one of McLaren or Rivet is now available.

And cue the Khabibulin back to Tampa rumours.

San Jose is now $2m shy of the cap. They've never had that kind of budget before, even in their bloated Lombardi/Sutter days.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan is saying he didn't like how it went down.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice pick-up for the Sharks and IMO really good return for TBay. Wishart is supposed to be great and Carle is worth a shot.

Hopefully his wrist is fully healed?!? I know wrist injuries can have long term effects but they must have checked him out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mirtle thinks it was Len Barrie who was degrading Boyle in negotiations. This was one of the most bizarre sequence of events I've seen as per a trade. Heck, I'd say even more bizarre than the Roy deal.

http://mirtle.blogspot.com/2008/07/boyle-vs-barrie.html

Anyways, both Barrie and Boyle were on the 2000-2001 Florida Panthers, a team that was awful and apparently very dysfunctional.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

saskhab wrote:

Anyways, both Barrie and Boyle were on the 2000-2001 Florida Panthers, a team that was awful and apparently very dysfunctional.


And for a guy like Len Barrie who had to scratch and claw his way to play 180 games in the show, it's not inconceivable that he wouldn't be a fan of a younger guy with a lot more natural talent that he thinks isn't working as hard to get where he is, whether it's actually accurate or not.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of these moves amaze me......Boyle gets paid 6.6 mil a year for 5 Years.....I just don't understand why signing Brian Campbell at 7.1 would have been any different? Marleau is coming due in 2 years.....

So their total cap hit is 51 Million.....I suppose I just don't get it. You'll never get me to understand the Blake signing either.

So is this the new NHL Norm? Lock up 5 players long term and try and plug the holes with role players around them?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

harmfuljays wrote:
Some of these moves amaze me......Boyle gets paid 6.6 mil a year for 5 Years.....I just don't understand why signing Brian Campbell at 7.1 would have been any different? Marleau is coming due in 2 years.....

So their total cap hit is 51 Million.....I suppose I just don't get it. You'll never get me to understand the Blake signing either.

So is this the new NHL Norm? Lock up 5 players long term and try and plug the holes with role players around them?


Not sure but I think they tried hard to get Campbell but couldn't get it done, might not just have been $$$.

I think the Blake signing sucks. Not what they needed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So is this the new NHL Norm? Lock up 5 players long term and try and plug the holes with role players around them?


With teams with a couple of huge stars making massive amounts of cash, that's likely how it'll be. See: Pittsburgh.

That can be limited to an extent when a team drafts and develops their own talent effectively.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

harmfuljays wrote:
Some of these moves amaze me......Boyle gets paid 6.6 mil a year for 5 Years.....I just don't understand why signing Brian Campbell at 7.1 would have been any different? Marleau is coming due in 2 years.....

So their total cap hit is 51 Million.....I suppose I just don't get it. You'll never get me to understand the Blake signing either.

So is this the new NHL Norm? Lock up 5 players long term and try and plug the holes with role players around them?

My only thought is they got the possibly really bad Carle contract off the books in this deal, so it's like adding $3.1m in salary, sacrificing a little depth, and getting Boyle instead of Campbell.

Yep, I think a lot of teams will try and lock up about 5 guys and look for ways to fill out the roster around them. It won't be the only blueprint out there, but it seems to be a common one. Some teams will lock up young guys, some will lock up guys when they hit UFA age.
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