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saskhab
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 Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: CBC pulling plug on Leafs' season? |
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071122.wspttruth22/BNStory/GlobeSports
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National distribution of Ottawa Senators and Montreal Canadiens games will increase on CBC over the next two months, says Scott Moore, the head of CBC Sports.
"It's pretty clear we will be riding their coattails in the playoffs," Moore said. "We hope the Toronto Maple Leafs make it, too, but Ottawa and Montreal are good bets." |
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Bell Centre Ghost
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About time. Hopefully some of those games will be national e.g. wen the sens face mtl. But I don't know how that will work with the RDS contract.
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US679 Part Deux
An improvement over the US678 prototype
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Location: Milton, Ontario
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: CBC pulling plug on Leafs' season? |
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| RIDERS RULE!!!!!! RIDERS wrote: |
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071122.wspttruth22/BNStory/GlobeSports
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National distribution of Ottawa Senators and Montreal Canadiens games will increase on CBC over the next two months, says Scott Moore, the head of CBC Sports.
"It's pretty clear we will be riding their coattails in the playoffs," Moore said. "We hope the Toronto Maple Leafs make it, too, but Ottawa and Montreal are good bets." |
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That's great, but it won't help those of us living in Toronto. 
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Lillith
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I'm not understanding here..doesn't the CBC televise ALL hockey games for Canadian teams? Please enlighten me.
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Jyrki21
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| Lillith wrote: |
| I'm not understanding here..doesn't the CBC televise ALL hockey games for Canadian teams? Please enlighten me. |
No. Only Saturday nights, and the games overlap, so they can't all be shown. There's some regional coverage (i.e. viewers in one province see one game, viewers in another see another), but only Toronto and Montreal are regularly scheduled to be playing every Saturday night. It's a toss-up with the others.
Vancouver (the only Canadian market with a time zone all to itself) is only on CBC 14 times this season, for instance.
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razzmatazz
Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Lillith wrote: |
| I'm not understanding here..doesn't the CBC televise ALL hockey games for Canadian teams? Please enlighten me. |
Put it this way - there's a reason it's called "Hockey Night in Canada or Wherever the Leafs Happen to Be Playing Saturday"... |
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Hounsy
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As a Leaf fan I'd rather they not let the rest of the nation see this mess of a team.
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Bell Centre Ghost
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Hounsy wrote: |
| As a Leaf fan I'd rather they not let the rest of the nation see this mess of a team. |
So that's their master plan. Have the team suck, the CBC pulls out, and then they can put all their games on LeafsTV. Mo'money, mo'money, mo'money!  |
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saskhab
'03-'04 Goalie Profiles Coming Soon!
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:57 am Post subject: |
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| Jyrki21 wrote: |
| Lillith wrote: |
| I'm not understanding here..doesn't the CBC televise ALL hockey games for Canadian teams? Please enlighten me. |
No. Only Saturday nights, and the games overlap, so they can't all be shown. There's some regional coverage (i.e. viewers in one province see one game, viewers in another see another), but only Toronto and Montreal are regularly scheduled to be playing every Saturday night. It's a toss-up with the others.
Vancouver (the only Canadian market with a time zone all to itself) is only on CBC 14 times this season, for instance. |
And yet Montreal is never shown unless they play Toronto.
Vancouver only has a "time zone all to itself" 47 games of the year at most. What's your point? More Vancouver games get televised on CBC than Montreal or Ottawa games.
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Jyrki21
Rebel Sell + Moneyball = Life
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| RIDERS RULE!!!!!! RIDERS wrote: |
And yet Montreal is never shown unless they play Toronto.
Vancouver only has a "time zone all to itself" 47 games of the year at most. What's your point? More Vancouver games get televised on CBC than Montreal or Ottawa games. |
My point was illustrative of how incorrect Lillith's assumption was by taking the team which faces the least viewing competition. No need to get defensive. But I assume Montreal's current state has to do with SRC's loss of whatever contractual rights they had which brought the Habs to RDS, because Montreal was almost literally the only team we ever used to see on Hockey Night in Canada, which only went Leaf-centric for the rest of the country once Gilmour got there. Any loss in Hab games on HNIC is an entirely recent phenomenon.
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Bell Centre Ghost
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Jyrki21 wrote: |
| RIDERS RULE!!!!!! RIDERS wrote: |
And yet Montreal is never shown unless they play Toronto.
Vancouver only has a "time zone all to itself" 47 games of the year at most. What's your point? More Vancouver games get televised on CBC than Montreal or Ottawa games. |
...because Montreal was almost literally the only team we ever used to see on Hockey Night in Canada, which only went Leaf-centric for the rest of the country once Gilmour got there. Any loss in Hab games on HNIC is an entirely recent phenomenon. |
That might have been the case in BC, but what happened in Eastern Ontario is that the CBC decided to make the Leafs the official team for English CBC and the Habs for Quebec - which is what your saying. The difference is that in places like Kingston, you used to be able to choose between the Habs on Ottawa CBC or the Leafs on Toronto CBC.
I think it had more to do with Mulrooney's cutbacks to the CBC and population shifts rather than the CBC suddenly become pro-Leaf since the change happened b4 the Gilmour era, iirc. The CBC should really just air the most intriguing game being played in Canada w.r.t. playoffs, rivalry, standings, gameplay, etc. I'd personally understand watching Detroit at Toronto over Montreal at Washington. What I don't understand is watching Toronto AT Phx instead of Buffalo AT Montreal. |
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razzmatazz
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 all these years and Mulroney still catches shit... |
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Jyrki21
Rebel Sell + Moneyball = Life
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| Bell Centre Ghost wrote: |
| The CBC should really just air the most intriguing game being played in Canada w.r.t. playoffs, rivalry, standings, gameplay, etc. I'd personally understand watching Detroit at Toronto over Montreal at Washington. What I don't understand is watching Toronto AT Phx instead of Buffalo AT Montreal. |
That's kind of the NBA on NBC approach which I've never liked, because it ends up being the same high-profile teams over and over. I, for one, want to see Washington or St. Louis every once in a while. Not Colorado every second week. Because the most 'intriguing' game is really a self-fulfilling prophecy to a large extent -- the teams that the media shows are the ones the fans know most about and find most intriguing.
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Bell Centre Ghost
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There's only six teams to choose from J21 and given the doubleheader - 3 teams. So no matter what, you're going to get the same teams.
EDIT: Oh wait - I see what you mean. Yes, that is true, but I think unavoidable. Unfortunately, the CBC can't be everything to all people and it only airs one game/week/coast so it needs to get the most bang for its buck and that doesn't constantly mean airing the Leaf game.. What that does mean will change over time and right now that could be mtl v. tb, whereas 10 years ago, that wouldn't have been said. So in the future, Edmonton v. Pheonix may supercede Col. v. Vcr.
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saskhab
'03-'04 Goalie Profiles Coming Soon!
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Jyrki21 wrote: |
| RIDERS RULE!!!!!! RIDERS wrote: |
And yet Montreal is never shown unless they play Toronto.
Vancouver only has a "time zone all to itself" 47 games of the year at most. What's your point? More Vancouver games get televised on CBC than Montreal or Ottawa games. |
My point was illustrative of how incorrect Lillith's assumption was by taking the team which faces the least viewing competition. No need to get defensive. But I assume Montreal's current state has to do with SRC's loss of whatever contractual rights they had which brought the Habs to RDS, because Montreal was almost literally the only team we ever used to see on Hockey Night in Canada, which only went Leaf-centric for the rest of the country once Gilmour got there. Any loss in Hab games on HNIC is an entirely recent phenomenon. |
And Ottawa?
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Jyrki21
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| GREY CUP CHAMPIONS!!!!!!! wrote: |
| And Ottawa? |
Not sure what you're getting at. Again, my point was only that CBC most definitely does not show every game involving a Canadian team. As an aside, Ottawa has always gotten the shaft from CBC -- but it's also in direct competition with the two largest hockey markets in the country.
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N2W
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Just for comparisons sake, this is how often a team will be on the rest of the season (which includes 3 days which aren't Saturdays). I couldn't find the schedule for earlier in the season, so this may be a little misleading.
Toronto - 21
Montreal - 13
Ottawa - 12
Vancouver - 12
Calgary - 9
Edmonton - 7
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/hnic/tvschedule.html |
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Hounsy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Boy the way people go on about it I thought it would of been worse. 
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saskhab
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| N2W wrote: |
Just for comparisons sake, this is how often a team will be on the rest of the season (which includes 3 days which aren't Saturdays). I couldn't find the schedule for earlier in the season, so this may be a little misleading.
Toronto - 21
Montreal - 13
Ottawa - 12
Vancouver - 12
Calgary - 9
Edmonton - 7
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/hnic/tvschedule.html |
And the difference being that the Western teams' games will almost always be shown to the entire national audience. In the past, the Montreal and Ottawa games would be very regional specific with the Toronto game getting on about 90-95% of CBC stations. We'll see how they split that up down the stretch in light of these comments.
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