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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Is Burke to blame here? Reply with quote

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/7420760
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Burke's proposal say that the team trading the player would have to live with that portion of the cap hit? Or would the entire cap hit still be transferred to the other team?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only one happy there's hardly any trades anymore? This is about the only roster stability we get. That's a good thing... isn't it?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heard Burke on the radio a few nights ago talking about this and he said he was looking at the range of a max of one million being retained by a team per deal and a total max of dead money a team can carry being two million.

I don't care either way as a Leaf fan it just means JFJ will try and cover his horrible signings with awful trades. Either way I lose.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saskhab wrote:
Am I the only one happy there's hardly any trades anymore? This is about the only roster stability we get. That's a good thing... isn't it?


Yes. Rental trades were getting out of control and this is coming from a guy who roots for the team that made 'em famous. Moving up the trade deadline was probably the best thing the league did in the new CBA...in fact I wouldn't mind them moving it up one more week just for good measure.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes. Rental trades were getting out of control and this is coming from a guy who roots for the team that made 'em famous. Moving up the trade deadline was probably the best thing the league did in the new CBA...in fact I wouldn't mind them moving it up one more week just for good measure.


Oh, I dunno..I think Detroit could be #1 where rent-a-player is concerned. We rented a Hall of Fame line, remember?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lillith wrote:
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Yes. Rental trades were getting out of control and this is coming from a guy who roots for the team that made 'em famous. Moving up the trade deadline was probably the best thing the league did in the new CBA...in fact I wouldn't mind them moving it up one more week just for good measure.


Oh, I dunno..I think Detroit could be #1 where rent-a-player is concerned. We rented a Hall of Fame line, remember?


Which line was that Lil? Laughing If you're talking about bringing in Robitaille and Hull, those weren't exactly rentals. We had em for 3 years and they weren't acquired at the deadline.

Detroit has had their share of rentals, but we've generally picked up role players, whereas the Avs have gone after some of the biggest names in the early 00'.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind seeing more trades, but I like the new strategy the salary cap has brought in. I thought it was hilarious when NJ had to give up a first rounder to SJ to lose some salary....

A small number of 'dead money' wouldn't upset me, but it all depends on how they calculate it. I would want the money to be a 'flat rate' all season long, and not allow a team to time these moves in order to have a much greater payroll.

IE - I wouldn't want Team 'A' to trade 1 million to Team 'B' on day 1 of the season, giving them 3 million (effectively) of extra cap room close to the deadline.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeing as how Burke will be talkin about Canadian teams winning in the new CBA world, I'm gonna ask him what effect his proposal might have on the Canadian teams' ability to compete...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Burke will apparently NOT be denied.

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/mckenzie/?id=223693

Oh and on a totally unrelated note, FUCK Lou Lams for being the guy who came up with this bullshit unbalanced schedule. Now I have yet one more reason to hate him.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without reading the link or this thread at all...yes, Burke is to blame.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Av-merican wrote:
Burke will apparently NOT be denied.

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/mckenzie/?id=223693


Burke's worried now that Pronger and May may actually get meaningful and deserved suspensions for being shitheads in the playoffs. Not to worry, Brian, Bettman is still deathly afraid of you.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, my ticket hasn't arrived so I guess I'm not going tommorrow. No matter I have tons of work to do, which is a good thing...

I actually agree with him here. I long for the days of 5 for 5 an 6 for 6 deals... If a GM wants to accept a cap hit, why not... It's not like it's gonna be easy to make a 5 million dollar mistake go away - even Lou Lams had to toss a first rounder in to get rid of Malakhov...

As for suspensions, he makes an excellent point. You can't just magically go from 5 or so games to 25 without indicating you're gonna do so. Such a change really needs a clear directional shift which should, in theory, come from the B.O.G., not some twit named Colin.

That said, I think suspensions for idiotic shit like what Downie and Boulerice and Jones pulled should be much higher...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

razzmatazz wrote:
That said, I think suspensions for idiotic shit like what Downie and Boulerice and Jones pulled should be much higher...

Nothing on Hartnell yet?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're asking my opinion, Alberts was CLEARLY in a prone position right by the boards, and Hartnell CLEARLY made a decision to rub him out notwithstanding the danger. I say throw the book at him as well, but if Bergeron's gets 2, Hartnell might get a stern talking to if we're lucky...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and before some idiot comes along and compares this to Moore on Naslund (like the retard Canuck fan who posted on TSN):

1) Naslund was in the process of lunging when he got hit whereas Alberts was already basically on his knees;

2) Moore got him with his arm whereas Hartnell's whole body went into Alberts and

3) Moore hit him in open ice whereas Hartnell crushed Alberts' head into the glass...
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