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Mirtle's look at the NHL's top defensive forwards

 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Mirtle's look at the NHL's top defensive forwards Reply with quote

http://mirtle.blogspot.com/

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Here's my Top 20, based on goals against at even strength and penalty killing, as well as strength of competition:


Behind the Net Statistics






NAME TEAM QUAL COMP Rk Top 60 EVGA
Rk Top 60 SHGA
Rk Top 60
1 HENRIK ZETTERBERG DET 0.14 14 1.24 9 3.12 8
2 TRAVIS MOEN ANA 0.26 3 0.60 2 6.47 33
3 PAVEL DATSYUK DET 0.11 18 1.27 10 4.22 17
4 MIKE GRIER S.J 0.08 21 2.05 22 1.79 4
5 STU BARNES DAL 0.10 19 2.11 26 1.70 3
6 SAMI PAHLSSON ANA 0.32 1 1.38 12 7.19 38
7 MARCEL HOSSA NYR 0.06 26 0.46 1 5.30 24
8 JEFF HALPERN DAL 0.22 4 1.78 16 7.00 36
9 JAY PANDOLFO N.J 0.22 4 1.78 16 7.13 37
10 RICK NASH CBJ 0.19 9 2.79 47 1.19 2
11 ROB NIEDERMAYER ANA 0.27 2 1.37 11 8.10 46
12 BRIAN ROLSTON MIN 0.06 26 1.21 7 5.62 27
13 MIKKO KOIVU MIN 0.06 26 1.45 13 5.30 24
14 MARIAN HOSSA ATL 0.20 7 2.45 38 4.35 18
15 CHRIS DRURY NYR -0.01 42 1.81 18 2.68 5
16 BRENDAN SHANAHAN NYR 0.01 38 1.71 15 3.78 13
17 MARTIN ST. LOUIS T.B 0.19 9 3.01 53 3.36 10
18 P.J. AXELSSON BOS -0.01 42 1.09 5 5.71 28
19 DAVID LEGWAND NSH 0.02 36 2.32 32 3.07 7
20 CHRIS KELLY OTT -0.01 42 1.81 18 4.06 16

Of the 60 eligible players (based on even strength and shorthanded ice time), here are a few other notables: #23, Daniel Alfredsson; #24, Vincent Lecavalier; #25, Nikolai Antropov; #27, John Madden; #42, Rod Brind'Amour; #43, Jere Lehtinen.

The Hurricanes' penalty kill has been dreadful, which holds back Brind'Amour from being a middle-of-the-pack guy.

I honestly didn't realize players like Hossa, Shanahan and Antropov were picking up quite that many minutes shorthanded.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the criteria that he used for defensive defensemen:

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In order to come up with a manageable number of blueliners to look at, I came up with a few criterion:

They'd have to play a lot, let's say be among the top 90 defencemen in even-strength ice time
Playing shorthanded would also be a big part of being a shutdown blueliner, so we'll take the top 60 from that category
Those two stipulations leave us with a workable number to use. With that group, I've chosen three metrics to look at (with another hat tip to Behind The Net):

(a) rate of goals against at even strength,
(b) rate of goals against shorthanded and
(c) strength of opposition

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the defensive defensemen list:

http://mirtle.blogspot.com/2007/11/who-has-been-top-defensive-defender.html

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NAME TEAM EVGA/60 EV/60 Rank QUALCOMP EV Comp Rank
SHGA/60 PK/60 Rank

1 A. VOLCHENKOV OTT 1.71 6 0.34 1 3.59 8
2 BRIAN RAFALSKI DET 1.49 3 0.13 18 0.00 1
3 CHRIS PHILLIPS OTT 1.58 5 0.31 2 4.62 18
4 NICK LIDSTROM DET 1.10 1 0.18 11 5.16 24
5 CHRIS PRONGER ANA 1.77 11 0.16 14 4.62 18
6 JAN HEJDA CBJ 2.30 28 0.24 5 4.27 14
7 M-E VLASIC S.J 1.74 8 0.06 30 3.96 11
8 HAL GILL TOR 2.21 23 0.09 28 3.44 7
9 MICHAL ROZSIVAL NYR 1.47 2 -0.03 51 3.36 6
10 KIMMO TIMONEN PHI 1.71 6 0.00 44 3.85 10
11 HENRIK TALLINDER BUF 2.71 42 0.16 14 3.19 5
12 ADAM FOOTE CBJ 2.89 47 0.28 3 4.03 12
13 JAY BOUWMEESTER FLA 2.32 29 0.25 4 5.59 33
14 DEREK MORRIS PHX 2.12 21 0.20 9 5.85 36
15 ZDENO CHARA BOS 1.55 4 0.13 18 8.09 45
16 PAUL MARTIN N.J 1.76 9 0.12 23 7.46 40
17 RUSLAN SALEI FLA 2.60 36 0.21 8 5.58 30
18 MATTIAS OHLUND VAN 2.11 19 -0.01 46 3.76 9
19 KIM JOHNSSON MIN 2.26 26 0.03 34 4.29 15
20 GREG DE VRIES NSH 2.60 36 0.13 18 4.96 22
21 BRENT BURNS MIN 2.23 25 0.09 28 5.04 23
22 ANDREW GREENE N.J 1.91 14 0.03 34 5.41 28
23 GREG ZANON NSH 2.22 24 0.02 37 4.51 16
24 ERIC BREWER STL 2.89 47 0.10 27 2.51 3
25 PAUL RANGER T.B 2.58 35 0.18 11 5.59 33
26 ANDREI MARKOV MTL 2.89 47 0.23 6 5.33 27
27 MIKE KOMISAREK MTL 2.41 30 0.20 9 7.62 43
28 RADEK MARTINEK NYI 2.26 26 0.02 37 4.70 20
29 KEITH BALLARD PHX 2.75 43 0.23 6 7.16 38
30 SERGEI ZUBOV DAL 2.79 44 0.01 41 1.02 2

Well, some interesting names there anyway.

Rafalski gets a huge boost by the fact he hasn't been on the ice for a shorthanded goal against, despite playing almost 60 minutes at 4-on-5 this season.

That's almost as impressive as Doug Weight's streak the other way.

And how about guys like Jan Hejda, Marc-Edouard Vlasic, Hal Gill and Michal Rozsival, none of whom have gotten much pub this season outside of their home markets.

We heard a ton from the Bloilgosphere about Hejda last year, and new Blue Jackets GM Scott Howson obviously saw it as well. Vlasic and Rozsival continue to be two of the league's best-kept secrets, adn Gill's basically there on the strength of his PK numbers, which are miles better than his fellow Leafs defenders.

On the bottom end were Kevin Bieksa, Brad Stuart, Brian Campbell, Dick Tarnstrom and Jason Smith, but again, this is among guys playing the biggest minutes in the league.

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