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harmfuljays
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harmfuljays
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| Tanguay is supposedly unhappy playing for Keenan and is said to have recently missed an important team meeting. |
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If Kovalev is in the last year of his deal, Calgary should do this...
Kovalev has played for Keenan before...
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Kovy has another year left on his deal. I think both contract terms are identical.
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harmfuljays
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: |
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| WHAT? This deal is great for you Habs lovers......Kovalev is a floating Russian Turd. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Whatever Keenan Wants, he's gonna get it
Whatever Keenan Wants, he's gonna get it...
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| This would be better for Montreal than for us. Merely media speculation for now. We'll see how it goes. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Kovalev has been our best forward thus far.
I feel dirty.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Kovalev has been our best forward thus far.
I feel dirty. |
After doing a few days of research on the internet and watching several hours of tape, I have come to the conclusion that Kovalev can sometimes be a little bit streaky.
So maybe trading him while he is on a hot streak and looks like the second coming of Jagr might be a good idea, when you can get maximum return? Just a thought.
Also, I am officially shocked that Tanguay is not getting along with Keenan. 
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Saddle Up!...its a pleasure to see you!
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As I mentioned on the old board, I really don't think this would be as horrible as some Flames supporters would make it sound.
Although I do have to question if Keenan's "motivation" would do anything more for Kovalev than it does for Tanguay?
Could also be a shrewd salary move to make room for Kipper... |
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As I mentioned on the old board, I really don't think this would be as horrible as some Flames supporters would make it sound.
Although I do have to question if Keenan's "motivation" would do anything more for Kovalev than it does for Tanguay?
Could also be a shrewd salary move to make room for Kipper... |
Sask says that the contracts are nearly identical, with the key feature of the extra year being the same. Calgary doesn't need that extra year. They need to find someone willing to take Tanguay's extra year and trading him for Kovalev will just stick then with that extra year.
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Keenan and Kovalev have had each other's pleasure in the past. It's not like it was a tremendously successful relationship, but definitely his best Rangers stint was under Keenan in the '94 playoffs.
Tanguay says he has no problem with his role in Calgary... he's playing with Conroy and Iginla and has Kipper as a goalie, what's not to love? (paraphrasing Tanugay's comments)
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DH
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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As I mentioned on the old board, I really don't think this would be as horrible as some Flames supporters would make it sound.
Although I do have to question if Keenan's "motivation" would do anything more for Kovalev than it does for Tanguay?
Could also be a shrewd salary move to make room for Kipper... |
Sask says that the contracts are nearly identical, with the key feature of the extra year being the same. Calgary doesn't need that extra year. They need to find someone willing to take Tanguay's extra year and trading him for Kovalev will just stick then with that extra year. |
Well, according nhlpa . c o m:
Tanguay - $5.35M
Kovalev - $4.5M
That could definitely be enough to close the gap in Kipper negotiations. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Oh i feel so warm and fuzzy now with DH and Saddle Up here....you guys up for moderating this forum?
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| Bosc Ulrich II wrote: |
| DH wrote: |
As I mentioned on the old board, I really don't think this would be as horrible as some Flames supporters would make it sound.
Although I do have to question if Keenan's "motivation" would do anything more for Kovalev than it does for Tanguay?
Could also be a shrewd salary move to make room for Kipper... |
Sask says that the contracts are nearly identical, with the key feature of the extra year being the same. Calgary doesn't need that extra year. They need to find someone willing to take Tanguay's extra year and trading him for Kovalev will just stick then with that extra year. |
Well, according nhlpa . c o m:
Tanguay - $5.35M
Kovalev - $4.5M
That could definitely be enough to close the gap in Kipper negotiations. |
That's something, but I still think Calgary doesn't want to be stuck with the extra year with Kovalev.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| DH wrote: |
As I mentioned on the old board, I really don't think this would be as horrible as some Flames supporters would make it sound.
Although I do have to question if Keenan's "motivation" would do anything more for Kovalev than it does for Tanguay?
Could also be a shrewd salary move to make room for Kipper... |
Sask says that the contracts are nearly identical, with the key feature of the extra year being the same. Calgary doesn't need that extra year. They need to find someone willing to take Tanguay's extra year and trading him for Kovalev will just stick then with that extra year. |
Well, according nhlpa . c o m:
Tanguay - $5.35M
Kovalev - $4.5M
That could definitely be enough to close the gap in Kipper negotiations. |
That's something, but I still think Calgary doesn't want to be stuck with the extra year with Kovalev. |
Both contracts go through next season, so there isn't an extra year. Also, Tanguay makes $5.35M this year and next but his cap hit is only $5.25M, Kovalev's cap hit is the same as his $4.5M salary.
So effectively we'd be using Kovalev instead of Tanguay and save $750k in cap space. It's unlikely that Tanguay gets re-signed at the end of next season, so the age difference between the 2 players is pretty much not important. It's all about who can put up the best numbers between now and the end of next year.
Given the need to resign Phaneuf and Kiprusoff that space could be pretty valuable.
Is it a good business trade? Probably. Is it a good hockey trade? Maybe. No reason to think Kovalev won't be as good or better than Tanguay under Keenan. |
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Both contracts go through next season, so there isn't an extra year. Also, Tanguay makes $5.35M this year and next but his cap hit is only $5.25M, Kovalev's cap hit is the same as his $4.5M salary.
So effectively we'd be using Kovalev instead of Tanguay and save $750k in cap space. It's unlikely that Tanguay gets re-signed at the end of next season, so the age difference between the 2 players is pretty much not important. It's all about who can put up the best numbers between now and the end of next year.
Given the need to resign Phaneuf and Kiprusoff that space could be pretty valuable.
Is it a good business trade? Probably. Is it a good hockey trade? Maybe. No reason to think Kovalev won't be as good or better than Tanguay under Keenan. |
Sorry, I didn't mean to say that Kovalev has one extra year over Tanguay. I meant an extra year as in this year plus next year, which both of them have. I think if you trade Tanguay, you want to free up the as much dough as possible for next year, the "extra" year. Bad choice of wording maybe. The $750k is some coin towards Kipper and Phaneuf, but I think you want a greater difference than that. So you find a taker for Tanguay and get something in return that will cost you way less than Kovalev's $4.5 salary for next season. Get a return without next year on the books, or something that will have more than a $750k difference and less of a headache than Kovalev.
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This one won't die. For the life of me I can't figure out why the Flames want that floater Kovalev....but I suppose Tanguay needs to be moved....can't we get someone cool like Doan........ 
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| This one won't die. For the life of me I can't figure out why the Flames want that floater Kovalev....but I suppose Tanguay needs to be moved....can't we get someone cool like Doan........ |
Currently, he's playing too well. You can't have him.
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