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Alabama Man
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: SIMON SAYS

30 Games. Should be more in my opinion .... the guy uses a skate blade as a weapon, what will he do next? http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=225518&hubname= _________________ My anger is a gift! Last edited by Alabama Man on Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:29 am; edited 1 time in total

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:26 am Post subject: Re: SIMON SAYS

Santa Butch wrote:

25 Games.

Should be more in my opinion .... the guy uses a skate blade as a weapon, what will he do next?

Mad

I'm thinking he'll bring an actual weapon on the ice next time. Maybe a lead pipe.
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DH
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject:

Alright....so his actions this time were WAY over the line.....but seriously, using a history of 1 and 2 game suspensions to pretend this guy is the most dangerous thug in league history is a little over the top. I still contend the Hollweg incident was blown out of proportion and the guy probably didn't know where or who he was when he swung his stick. 30 games is about right, but I don't think he'll play in the league again.

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject:

DH wrote:

Alright....so his actions this time were WAY over the line.....but seriously, using a history of 1 and 2 game suspensions to pretend this guy is the most dangerous thug in league history is a little over the top.

I still contend the Hollweg incident was blown out of proportion and the guy probably didn't know where or who he was when he swung his stick.

30 games is about right, but I don't think he'll play in the league again.

I agree, generally. They have a list of the NHL's lengthiest suspensions and to see Simon at #1 and #2 (behind the lifetime ban guy who they eventually let back in) is quite misleading. It suggests he was the dirtiest player ever to play, and I don't even think he's the dirtiest/most despicable of his generation.
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Av-merican
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject:

Riders Rule, Habs Suck wrote:

DH wrote:

Who would those people be (all-time and of Simon's generation respectively)? Just curious...

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:26 am Post subject:

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:33 am Post subject:

tcl may have posted one. But here's another one Lillith: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg1UerefVoA _________________ The fans represent the soul of the organization. This is their team. Us, we simply try to make it better. They tell us when things are going good, and when they are less so. We don't always give them the impression that we are listening, but we are.

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/blog/2007/12/nothing_is_simple_for_chris_si.html Campbell's doing some damage control now, too. _________________ It's backwards time.

DH
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject:

This repeat offender stuff is total bullshit too. Chris Pronger has 7 suspensions and he still only gets 1 game where someone of lesser stature would see 5+. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2007/news/story?id=2891998 1995: 4 games for swinging his stick at Pat Peake's throat 1998: 4 games for swinging his stick at Jeremy Roenick's head 2001: 1 game for leaving the bench to fight (isn't that supposed to be an automatic 10+?) 2002: 2 games for cross-checking Brendan Morrow in the face 2004: 1 game for stepping on Ville Nieminen with his skate blade 2007: 1 game for elbow from behind on Holmstrom 2007: 1 game for his flagrant headshot on McAmmond You tell me who's a bigger cheapshot artist that "doesn't get it"

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject:

It's amazing how Pronger has essentially done all the "taboo" big suspension things that have been handed out in recent years apart from anything like the Bertuzzi/Moore case. Right down to the flagrant headshot on Dean McAmmond. Cross-checking in the face a la Boulerice? Check. Stepping on someone? Check. Stick-swinging? Check. Unreal. Av, you were asking. _________________ It's backwards time.

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject:

Riders Rule, Habs Suck wrote:

It's amazing how Pronger has essentially done all the "taboo" big suspension things that have been handed out in recent years apart from anything like the Bertuzzi/Moore case. Right down to the flagrant headshot on Dean McAmmond. Cross-checking in the face a la Boulerice? Check. Stepping on someone? Check. Stick-swinging? Check.

Unreal. Av, you were asking. Laughing

You gotta be kidding me. You do realize that it's because he's so much taller than everyone else so he can't possibly be expected to keep his arms down?
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:05 pm Post subject:

Bosc Ulrich II wrote:

Riders Rule, Habs Suck wrote:

You gotta be kidding me. You do realize that it's because he's so much taller than everyone else so he can't possibly be expected to keep his arms down?

and how's he not supposed to step on a Finnish pest with his skate blade.

(funny how it's Nieminen and Ruutu that are the victims of that - surpised Tikannen never got it back in the day)

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject:

DH wrote:

Bosc Ulrich II wrote:

Riders Rule, Habs Suck wrote:

You gotta be kidding me. You do realize that it's because he's so much taller than everyone else so he can't possibly be expected to keep his arms down?

and how's he not supposed to step on a Finnish pest with his skate blade.

You're joking, right? Look at how tall the freakin guy is. It's a credit to his concern for his fellow players that random finnish pests aren't stepped on and women everywhere aren't impregnated every time he takes a stride.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:26 am Post subject:

Bell Centre Ghost wrote:

tcl may have posted one. But here's another one Lillith:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg1UerefVoA

Thank you very much, Bell. The first time I saw it I wasn't sure where to look or what I was seeing. The second time I saw it..I couldn't believe what I was seeing, so I replayed it again.

Holy Freakin' shit. What the hell was he expecting to happen? It was right in front of the referees. Simon is a danger. He simply does not care what he does or what consequences will follow.

Read this here first: I will not be surprised if Chris Simon finds himself on trial for murder - not on the rink - but out in the world. He has no regard for other people. Period.

As far as Pronger..he's a Prick.

And I have observed, from a fan standpoint, that the NHL has never been equitable in their doling out punishments. The NHL has no concrete guidelines, as far as I can see.

If there are any guidelines, I'd appreciate one of you guys pointing me in the direction where I might find them.

Thanks
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Jyrki21
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:31 am Post subject:

Lillith wrote:

If there are any guidelines, I'd appreciate one of you guys pointing me in the direction where I might find them.

Thanks
Lil

Here are the guidelines:

The X-axis is media outrage. The Y-axis is number of games suspended.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:59 am Post subject:

Jyrki21 wrote:

Lillith wrote:

If there are any guidelines, I'd appreciate one of you guys pointing me in the direction where I might find them.

Thanks
Lil

Here are the guidelines:

The X-axis is media outrage. The Y-axis is number of games suspended.

If it's an Anaheim player, it's a flat line across the bottom of the x axis.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:26 am Post subject:

Bosc Ulrich II wrote:

Jyrki21 wrote:

Lillith wrote:

If there are any guidelines, I'd appreciate one of you guys pointing me in the direction where I might find them.

Thanks
Lil

Here are the guidelines:

The X-axis is media outrage. The Y-axis is number of games suspended.

If it's an Anaheim player, it's a flat line across the bottom of the x axis.

,,, and if it's Chris Pronger, it's just a point at the lower left corner. The media wouldn't dare be outraged, and therefore the league metes out one game.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:28 am Post subject:

the New Cunning Linguist wrote:

Bosc Ulrich II wrote:

If it's an Anaheim player, it's a flat line across the bottom of the x axis.

,,, and if it's Chris Pronger, it's just a point at the lower left corner. The media wouldn't dare be outraged, and therefore the league metes out one game.

I think that's more to do with Brian Burke than Chris Pronger or the media.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:15 am Post subject:

so if Pronger were to slam Gretzky into the boards..how would the press react? _________________ No one can make you feel inferior without your permission.

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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:00 am Post subject:

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so if Pronger were to slam Gretzky into the boards..how would the press react?

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