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the New Cunning Linguist
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| Turco points out that Luongo is cheating. Explains a lot... |
 Yup,He's got a new strap on the back of the knee that is guaranteed to stop 80% of all shots  |
Didn't the Mitchell Report teach you anything, counsellor? It's only cheating if the league says it is...
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Jyrki21
Rebel Sell + Moneyball = Life
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| razzmatazz wrote: |
| Turco points out that Luongo is cheating. Explains a lot... |
Has the "Turco says" standard of irrefutable proof yet been imported into BC law, or is it still only valid in Ontario?
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saskhab
'03-'04 Goalie Profiles Coming Soon!
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| razzmatazz wrote: |
| Turco points out that Luongo is cheating. Explains a lot... |
Has the "Turco says" standard of irrefutable proof yet been imported into BC law, or is still only valid in Ontario? |
Especially because it was said with tongue firmly in cheek.
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Hounsy
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Oh it's the outside knee lock.
Which is a product of his crazy knee protection system pushing everything out. Do Turco and Luongo go back at all with any Canadian teams? seems like something someone would joke about rather than be serious about.
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saskhab
'03-'04 Goalie Profiles Coming Soon!
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Oh it's the outside knee lock.
Which is a product of his crazy knee protection system pushing everything out. Do Turco and Luongo go back at all with any Canadian teams? seems like something someone would joke about rather than be serious about. |
Both were on the 2005 World Championship team and the 2006 Olympic team.
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Jyrki21
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Both were on the 2005 World Championship team and the 2006 Olympic team. |
And probably one of their ancestors offed one of the other's ancestors back in the Old Country... kidding!
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Hounsy
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| Hounsy wrote: |
Oh it's the outside knee lock.
Which is a product of his crazy knee protection system pushing everything out. Do Turco and Luongo go back at all with any Canadian teams? seems like something someone would joke about rather than be serious about. |
Both were on the 2005 World Championship team and the 2006 Olympic team. |
I think some tongues may have been planted in cheeks...and not in the Razz on Jacobs sort of way. 
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Bosc Ulrich II
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| Riders Rule, Habs Suck wrote: |
| Hounsy wrote: |
Oh it's the outside knee lock.
Which is a product of his crazy knee protection system pushing everything out. Do Turco and Luongo go back at all with any Canadian teams? seems like something someone would joke about rather than be serious about. |
Both were on the 2005 World Championship team and the 2006 Olympic team. |
I think some tongues may have been planted in cheeks...and not in the Razz on Jacobs sort of way. |
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harmfuljays
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Hey you! This thread is about Timmer. And how Razz voted him as a starter at the All-star game.
He's the best money tender of all time don't you know. All those cups are weighing him down....Go Vermont!
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razzmatazz
Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!
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| Actually my tongue was in cheek responding to Tuzer, but hey, it's always fun to see you guys take whatever I say and run with it... |
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monsieur parafect
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Prior to today's game against the Blues, Thomas was .04 save % points ahead of Luongo, who was 2nd in the league. Luongo is top 3 in all goaltending stats except wins, where he is 9th overall. Thomas was only in the top 5 in one category. He was torched for 3 goals on 28 shots against the Blues so his save % will take another beating. Depending on what Luongo, Huet and Osgood do tonight, Thomas may end up 4th in save %. He hasn't looked so good returning from injury. He's given up 7 goals on 57 shots.
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razzmatazz
Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!
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I love it. Luongo puts a couple shutouts together and he's suddenly got an aversion to kryptonite. Thomas finally has a game where he doesn't stop 44 of the 45 shots he sees, and he's not looking so good.
Mr. P I thought you were the one suggesting that Vancouver's D was far superior to Boston's. If Thomas had a better SVP than Luongo, then which is it- better goalie? better D? better coach? Or perhaps half the season is too artificial to get a good read on things... |
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Tuzer
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I love it. Luongo puts a couple shutouts together and he's suddenly got an aversion to kryptonite. Thomas finally has a game where he doesn't stop 44 of the 45 shots he sees, and he's not looking so good.
Mr. P I thought you were the one suggesting that Vancouver's D was far superior to Boston's. If Thomas had a better SVP than Luongo, then which is it- better goalie? better D? better coach? Or perhaps half the season is too artificial to get a good read on things... |
Nah!! Just weaker offence in the east,And everyone knows that the Bruins logo is mesmorizing which causes 90% of all shooters to aim for the logo on TT's chest which according to all of the most brilliant hockey analysts on the planet,This simply pads Timmy's stats.Gawwwd!!,How could you not recognize thi  s |
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razzmatazz
Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!
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I see TT and all I can think is Quattro...
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monsieur parafect
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After the Canucks game against the Ducks, Luongo's save % will pass Thomas'. Luongo is in the top 5 in save %, GAA, wins and shutouts. Only Nabokov is close to Luongo in being top 5 in all categories of goaltending. Martin Brodeur is still considered to be the King of goaltenders and until Luongo can win the Stanley Cup, then he is a challenger. He's still one of the best in the NHL, along with Brodeur, Nabokov, Lundquist, Kiprasoff and Hasek. Thomas has nowhere near the history or portfolio these goalies have to be considered the best in the NHL.
Razz, you appear to be an of the moment sort of guy. You used Thomas' then league leading save % to justify your claim he was the best goalie in the NHL. Since returning from injury he has allowed 13 goals on 110 shots to slip from the best save % to 5th. I realize 2 of his top 4 D-men are out but still he hasn't shown enough to be considered the best. Pardon me but aside from Timmy's mom, you are the only person out of 6 billion people to believe Thomas is a better goalie than Luongo and all the other goalies in the NHL. Luongo was a great goalie before coming to the Canucks. Just look at his stats playing for a horrible Islanders team in his rookie season and the dreadful teams in Florida he played for. Do you believe they were better teams than the Bruins teams Thomas has tended for? I certainly don't and Luongo's stats shouldn't be ignored. Luongo was considered a phenom in junior and has lived up to expectations. That's not a knock against Thomas. The problem with Thomas is that he isn't very big. He starts out strong but breaks down and his save % evens out. His history shows he's a 40-45 game goalie and after that his stats suffer. Like Dwayne Roloson, another college goalie, he has worked his way to the NHL in his early 30s and would benefit with another goalie platooning so he would have gas left in the tank for the playoffs.
As for the comparisons between the Canucks D and the Bruins, I stated that collectively the Canucks had a better defence. If you line up both defences, Chara is the most talented of all of them. Last season your team had Stuart, who is very talented but has no heart and Mara, who showed promise in Phoenix but looks to be going nowhere. Ference and Ward are both solid journeymen who could be on the Canucks roster. Where you're not happy is my statement that Edler could have made the Bruins roster last season. I believed Edler should have been on the Canucks roster last season and that he was a better D-man than Fitzpatrick. Vigneault and Nonis thought otherwise and wanted him to develop in Manitoba. It's not a slight against the Bruins, it's that the Canucks scouts (Thomas Gradin) finally did their homework and picked a sleeper in the 3rd round whose ahead of his development curve. The Canucks are tied for the 3rd best goals against in the NHL. Their goalies and D-men must be doing something right. |
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razzmatazz
Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!
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I find I get along better with people here if I refrain from talking about the Canucks.
I will say this - Thomas has, by all accounts, played fairly well since he's come back. We have five core guys out with significant injuries. We have about 15 million in cap space sitting on the sidelines right now. It's not the goalie's fault if he has to face a ton more quality chances.
As for Luongo, recall his comments about the D needing to play better etc. when he had his rough patch last year. Contrast that with Thomas, who noted that "we really needed me to make a few more saves" when asked about their one goal loss to Carolina.
Luongo is a great goalie. So's Brodeur. So's Thomas. We happen to be going through a rough stretch, and his numbers have suffered. Doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best in the league... |
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monsieur parafect
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| Fair enough. This is the Bruins forum so I'll try not to clutter it with Canucks talk. |
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razzmatazz
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It's not Canuck talk, comparisons are welcome. I initiated the dicsussion, its only fair that you be allowed to reply. Given that I don't go to the Nucks forum, this would be the only place anyone from there can talk to me  |
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the New Cunning Linguist
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The papers here are awash in ink detailing the showdown of the league's two top goalies.
What a joke. Timmy is better than either of those two. Tough to get respect when we have peabrained journalists running around this town... |
Here's a blog to warm your little black and gold heart... http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/CandB/comments/goalie_appreciation_day/
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Hounsy
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As far as the Goalie World cover goes who wants to look at Luongo pictures when he uses the same looking gear for so too long.
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