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razzmatazz
Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Posts: 1826
Location: Burnaby, B.C.
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 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:15 am Post subject: Matt Cooke... |
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is a little twirp. On a night when Bergeron begs his fellow colleagues to stop the hits from behind, Cooke does just that to a Flame. Then, it true Cooke fashion, he runs and hides behind the zebras when Calgary tries to take his head off. This leads to a truly honourable, and far more valuable player, Mattias Ohlund, going with Phaneuf and sitting for five.
Cooke is a disgrace, period... |
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Farang
Chaser, Wearer of Skirts
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:35 am Post subject: |
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| The Cooke hit was waaay cleaner than the Regehr hit on Danny Sedin. Landcow was watching the play the entire time. You're right about Ohlund standing up though. I expected a lame argument about this hit. To even place this hit in the same statement as the moot hit on Bergie is lame. Regehr pushed Danni's head into the boards. Fortunately he was okay and racked up yet another point against The Flames. Phaneuf was just doing his job trying to stir shit up. |
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Jyrki21
Rebel Sell + Moneyball = Life
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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Location: Ottawa, ON
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| Farang wrote: |
| The Cooke hit was waaay cleaner than the Regehr hit on Danny Sedin. Landcow was watching the play the entire time. You're right about Ohlund standing up though. I expected a lame argument about this hit. To even place this hit in the same statement as the moot hit on Bergie is lame. Regehr pushed Danni's head into the boards. Fortunately he was okay and racked up yet another point against The Flames. Phaneuf was just doing his job trying to stir shit up. |
Yeah, I didn't see the highlight until this morning, but it wasn't even comparable... (admittedly I saw it fast, but I didn't find it too shocking or anything). It wasn't at high speed, it started and finished right along the boards, and it wasn't particularly blind (if I recall, could be wrong). I'm sure Lames fans didn't like it, and that's fair, but it wasn't the type of thing you see 50-page HFBoards posts on. (And that's saying something!) Rather, it's the type of thing that happens pretty much every game, and is much harder to control.
But I agree, that it was annoying that Öhlund had to risk breaking a hand or what not taking on the Dion. That said, can you imagine a Cooke-Phaneuf fight? I can't even think what that would look like...
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Cannots Luvah
Mike Weaver jersey on order
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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yeah , it was dirty yet not bad enough to get suspended. Mike Keenan said " it was a hockey hit" afterwards.. no sour grapes from their side.
WIth that being said , I do agree Cookes' cowardess is not what this team needs from their veterans. When he was a kid on that team with Brash , Bert , Jovo , May , ... his antics fit in with that particular group but this team needs better leadership from its veterans. They have plenty of guys to do Cooke's job and they need Cooke to lead their youth movement. |
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razzmatazz
Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Posts: 1826
Location: Burnaby, B.C.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Jyrki21 wrote: |
| Farang wrote: |
| The Cooke hit was waaay cleaner than the Regehr hit on Danny Sedin. Landcow was watching the play the entire time. You're right about Ohlund standing up though. I expected a lame argument about this hit. To even place this hit in the same statement as the moot hit on Bergie is lame. Regehr pushed Danni's head into the boards. Fortunately he was okay and racked up yet another point against The Flames. Phaneuf was just doing his job trying to stir shit up. |
Yeah, I didn't see the highlight until this morning, but it wasn't even comparable... (admittedly I saw it fast, but I didn't find it too shocking or anything). It wasn't at high speed, it started and finished right along the boards, and it wasn't particularly blind (if I recall, could be wrong). I'm sure Lames fans didn't like it, and that's fair, but it wasn't the type of thing you see 50-page HFBoards posts on. (And that's saying something!) Rather, it's the type of thing that happens pretty much every game, and is much harder to control.
But I agree, that it was annoying that Öhlund had to risk breaking a hand or what not taking on the Dion. That said, can you imagine a Cooke-Phaneuf fight? I can't even think what that would look like... |
It would only take one fight and not only would Cooke have a huge incentive to stop his chronically dirty play, but Ohlund wouldn't risk getting hurt doing someone else's dirty work...
I didn't see the one on Sedin so I can't comment. If it was worse, throw the book at that offender too. I'm just sick of guys seeing the backs of opponents and pasting them.
To be clear, Alberts is bad for that kind of thing too. If he does it, suspend him large as well, you won't hear a peep from me... |
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monsieur parafect
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Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Cooke has been a bone of contention for me the last three season. I didn't like his hit on Langkow and since I called for Moore to be suspended at least one game by the NHL for his hit on Naslund, I will be consistent and say Cooke should be suspended for at least 2 games by Colin Campbell, even if the penalty he received was a minor for boarding. John Garrett said it correctly on the broadcast, the Canucks were up 3-0 on the Flegms so why do something stupid that might fire up the other team? The trouble with Cooke is when he plays the way he did the last 40 games of last season, he is a very effective 3rd line winger. He can be physical but clean, he doesn't have to stick his leg out or hit from behind. In other words, he could play the same way Burrows does and not have to answer the bell if he is relatively clean with his hits. He's not Claude Lemieux dirty but doesn't come across as smart player. Having said that, Phaneuf is as gutless as Cooke. He won't fight a player unless he outweighs him by 25 lb or goes up against a non fighter. Witness him declining a fight with Bieksa last season and not wanting anything to do with Rypien or Mike Brown in the preseason. |
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the S Fox
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| Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| monsieur parafect wrote: |
| Cooke has been a bone of contention for me the last three season. I didn't like his hit on Langkow and since I called for Moore to be suspended at least one game by the NHL for his hit on Naslund, I will be consistent and say Cooke should be suspended for at least 2 games by Colin Campbell, even if the penalty he received was a minor for boarding. John Garrett said it correctly on the broadcast, the Canucks were up 3-0 on the Flegms so why do something stupid that might fire up the other team? |
It certainly appears that the Nux have an over abundance of Cooke type players on this years squad. And since he signed his last contract that most thought was too rich for his contribution, I'm not convinced he brings more to the team than a Burrows or Ritchie.
With respect to his boarding penalty, the replay I saw wasn't particularly viscious or pre-meditated, altho' he appeared to shove Langkow with his forearm when he knew contact with the boards was imminent.
The fact that Langkow wasn't vulnerable like Bergeron was (with respect to the height of his head in relation to the boards), it seems to me this was an unfortunate result of a hockey hit. And I would be inclined to view the hit the same if a Nux players was the recipient.
However, I have to agree with Mr P and Mr L Cooke has to be more aware of what is happening in the game and pick his spots.
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razzmatazz
Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!
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Location: Burnaby, B.C.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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By Brisebois I assume you mean Bergeron. Kindly never associate the two again...
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Cannots Luvah
Mike Weaver jersey on order
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Last year the Canucks were up 2-0 on Calgary and Cooke laid a clean hard hit on Iginla and woke him up and he took over and won the game. With the emergance of Burrows and Ritchie and if not for injures , Rypien as well , his value/role has sunk for this team. Most fans feel this way anyways about Cooke being expendable. Isbuster is slow as sludge but at least he provides a different look for the opposition to prepare for. Canucks seriously have too many Cookes in the kitchen..< thank you thank you , cheezy and lame but dammit , it fit so perfect. |
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the S Fox
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| razzmatazz wrote: |
By Brisebois I assume you mean Bergeron. Kindly never associate the two again...
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Duly noted. (and edited)
Like the Twins...hard to tell the two Patrice's apart ?  |
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Jyrki21
Rebel Sell + Moneyball = Life
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| the S Fox wrote: |
| razzmatazz wrote: |
By Brisebois I assume you mean Bergeron. Kindly never associate the two again...
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Duly noted. (and edited)
Like the Twins...hard to tell the two Patrice's apart ? |
It's hard to harp on Cooke for laying a clean hit that "woke up" Iginla. If he'd passed up the opportunity, fans would be much angrier.
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freakydave
Less freaky once you get to know him
Joined: 26 Oct 2007
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Location: JESUS JUST LEFT CHICAGO
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Matt the turtle Cooke--now that Clouchoke is a distant bad dream---is a guy that has to go before or at the trade deadline.He's an expensive 3rd liner who can be replaced.As last years' playoffs demonstrated. |
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N2W
Joined: 12 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Matt Cooke was supposed to be able to play his role and chip in offensively.... after his 02-03 season, where he got 40 points and was a plus 20, hopes were high. Unfortunately, nothing's improved since then. His offensive game seems weaker, as does his agitating.....maybe it's the system, but Cooke has gone from someone who looked like a great 3rd liner, to just another 3rd liner, and in a cap world than doesn't = his salary. |
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the New Cunning Linguist
Like a good neighbor, only better
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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freakydave
Less freaky once you get to know him
Joined: 26 Oct 2007
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Location: JESUS JUST LEFT CHICAGO
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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some of my favourite lines from the article
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"He turned and I even stopped a bit and stuck my hip into him and he hit his head on the glass." |
Yup 15 stitches worth thank god he eased up.
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A bigger concern for Cooke tonight is generating offence on a struggling line with Brendan Morrison and Alex Burrows. Cooke has one goal in his last 14 games, Morrison one in his last 11 and Burrows one in his last 11 games.
The trio have combined for just one shot in the last two games. Limited 5-on-5 play has been a problem, but not as much as failing to shoot when chances arise -- especially Morrison. |
The forecheck isn't leading to scoring chances? & even when it does the 3 of them are looking to pass 
This guy is the definition overpaid for what he brings to the table the sooner he's gone the better. |
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razzmatazz
Go Habs Go! Vive le CH!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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I'm trying to find something in that to bitch about, but...
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